30cal accuracy issues

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   When you fire the hatsan in he spring version you can tell. They vibrate after firing and unless you take it apart and full the s[ring with grease it will be noticeable and the fact that the stock is against your cheek you can hear the "twang" sound it makes. The vortex piston just makes a "thud" sound like a hammer hitting a thick bit of wood. 

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nunga Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Forum Moderator Joined: 08 Mar 2013 Location: Pukekohe Status: Offline Posts: 824	Post Options Post Reply Quote nunga Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 Apr 2023 at 10:06am
	When you fire the hatsan in he spring version you can tell. They vibrate after firing and unless you take it apart and full the s[ring with grease it will be noticeable and the fact that the stock is against your cheek you can hear the "twang" sound it makes. The vortex piston just makes a "thud" sound like a hammer hitting a thick bit of wood.
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Freddiefx Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 27 Apr 2023 Location: Rotorua Status: Offline Posts: 10	Post Options Post Reply Quote Freddiefx Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 Apr 2023 at 10:33am
	Well, its conclusive. Mines a springer. Photo attached. (Not the best quality but all I can get out of my tablet). Bit annoyed actually. Told by dealer it was gas piston. From what I gather now, the wooden stock guns are springers, the synthetic stock gas piston. Are spring guns any lesser than gas piston? Haven't had one for many years. I understand you can't leave them cocked like the gas pistons, but other than that I've no clue. Edited by Freddiefx - 29 Apr 2023 at 11:40am

kruzaroad Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 02 Jul 2022 Location: Hastings 4 now Status: Offline Posts: 1680	Post Options Post Reply Quote kruzaroad Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 Apr 2023 at 10:42am
	If you've brought it off a site or shop that is advertising it as the gas ram, take a screenshot of the ad. If they given you a reciet that says vortex keep it. Tell them you want what they advertised. By law they have to provide you with it. Or ask for a couple of free tins of pellets in compisation. Edited by kruzaroad - 29 Apr 2023 at 10:44am

Ralph Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 20 Sep 2022 Location: Orewa Status: Offline Posts: 51	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ralph Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 Apr 2023 at 11:29am
	From the research I've done the power/velocity is generally the same for a gas ram and springer Hatsan 135.
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Freddiefx Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 27 Apr 2023 Location: Rotorua Status: Offline Posts: 10	Post Options Post Reply Quote Freddiefx Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 Apr 2023 at 11:42am
	Are there differences in techniques re shooting and accuracy? Hold preferences etc?

Ralph Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 20 Sep 2022 Location: Orewa Status: Offline Posts: 51	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ralph Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 Apr 2023 at 1:09pm
	Interesting reading https://www.reddit.com/r/airguns/comments/qf83pk/the_hatsan_135_qe_year_one_review_part_1/
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Billbobnz Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 13 Jun 2020 Location: Ashburton Status: Offline Posts: 771	Post Options Post Reply Quote Billbobnz Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 Apr 2023 at 5:45pm
	Yes I would be hitting up the dealer and sending them that photo as proof.

mercs Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 24 Apr 2020 Location: Stratford Status: Offline Posts: 242	Post Options Post Reply Quote mercs Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 Apr 2023 at 8:39pm
	My .30 Carnivore has been trouble free since February 2020 and in excess of 1000 pellets. It gets a wipe down with Ballistol after use and a drop of oil on any pivot points after each 250 pellets. I had checked out numerous websites and reviews from both American and British users so was able to define spring as power source and walnut stock which was a real departure for me as I normally look for gas piston powered with easy care composite stocks. I was given a .30 off the rack to look at and get the feel of it. Box has very little information but I was fully informed at point of sale. I was advised of lack of pellet choice and use JSB Match Diablo Exact 2.9 grammes 44.7 grains dome head 7.62mm Edited by mercs - 29 Apr 2023 at 8:40pm