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   <title>30cal accuracy issues : My .30 Carnivore has been trouble...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/member_profile.asp?PF=548">mercs</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 791<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30&nbsp;Apr&nbsp;2023 at 2:39pm<br /><br />My .30 Carnivore has been &nbsp;trouble free since February 2020 and in excess of 1000 pellets.<div>It gets a wipe down with Ballistol after use and a drop of oil on any pivot points after each 250 pellets.<br><div><br></div><div>I had checked out numerous websites and reviews from both American and British users so was able to define spring as power source and walnut stock which was a real departure for me as I normally look for gas piston powered with easy care composite stocks.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>I was given a .30 off the rack to look at and get the feel of it.</div><div>Box has very little information but I was fully informed at point of sale.</div><div><br></div><div>I was advised of lack of pellet choice and use JSB Match Diablo Exact 2.9 grammes 44.7 grains dome head 7.62mm</div><div><p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><br></p></div><div><img src="uploads/548/hatsan_box1.JPG" height="135" width="1024" border="0" /><br></div><div><br></div><div><img src="uploads/548/hatsan_box3.JPG" height="340" width="1024" border="0" /><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><img src="uploads/548/hatsan_box2.JPG" height="256" width="1024" border="0" /><br></div><div><br></div></div><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by mercs - 30&nbsp;Apr&nbsp;2023 at 2:40pm</span>]]>
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   <title>30cal accuracy issues : Yes I would be hitting up the...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/member_profile.asp?PF=556">Billbobnz</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 791<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30&nbsp;Apr&nbsp;2023 at 11:45am<br /><br />Yes I would be hitting up the dealer and sending them that photo as proof.<br /><br />]]>
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   <title>30cal accuracy issues : Interesting readinghttps://www...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/member_profile.asp?PF=652">Ralph</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 791<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30&nbsp;Apr&nbsp;2023 at 7:09am<br /><br />Interesting reading<div><br></div><div>https://www.reddit.com/r/airguns/comments/qf83pk/the_hatsan_135_qe_year_one_review_part_1/</div>]]>
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   <title>30cal accuracy issues : Are there differences in techniques...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/member_profile.asp?PF=684">Freddiefx</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 791<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30&nbsp;Apr&nbsp;2023 at 5:42am<br /><br />Are there differences in techniques re shooting and accuracy? Hold preferences etc? ]]>
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   <title>30cal accuracy issues : From the research I&amp;#039;ve done...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/member_profile.asp?PF=652">Ralph</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 791<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30&nbsp;Apr&nbsp;2023 at 5:29am<br /><br />From the research I've done the power/velocity is generally the same for a gas ram and springer Hatsan 135.&nbsp;]]>
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   <title>30cal accuracy issues : If you&amp;#039;ve brought it off...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/member_profile.asp?PF=643">kruzaroad</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 791<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30&nbsp;Apr&nbsp;2023 at 4:42am<br /><br />If you've brought it off a site or shop that is advertising it as the gas ram, take a screenshot of the ad. If they given you a reciet that says vortex keep it. Tell them you want what they advertised. By law they have to provide you with it.<br /> Or ask for a couple of free tins of pellets in compisation. <span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by kruzaroad - 30&nbsp;Apr&nbsp;2023 at 4:44am</span>]]>
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   <title>30cal accuracy issues : Well, its conclusive. Mines a...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/member_profile.asp?PF=684">Freddiefx</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 791<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30&nbsp;Apr&nbsp;2023 at 4:33am<br /><br />Well, its conclusive. Mines a springer. Photo attached. (Not the best quality but all I can get out of my tablet). Bit annoyed actually. Told by dealer it was gas piston. From what I gather now, the wooden stock guns are springers, the synthetic stock gas piston. Are spring guns any lesser than gas piston? Haven't had one for many years. I understand you can't leave them cocked like the gas pistons, but other than that I've no clue. <br /><br /><img src="uploads/684/20230429_102801.jpg" border="0" /><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by Freddiefx - 30&nbsp;Apr&nbsp;2023 at 5:40am</span>]]>
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   <title>30cal accuracy issues : When you fire the hatsan in he...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/member_profile.asp?PF=3">nunga</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 791<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30&nbsp;Apr&nbsp;2023 at 4:06am<br /><br />When you fire the hatsan in he spring version you can tell. They vibrate after firing and unless you take it apart and full the s&#091;ring with grease it will be noticeable and the fact that the stock is against your cheek you can hear the "twang" sound it makes. The vortex piston just makes a "thud" sound like a hammer hitting a thick bit of wood. <br>]]>
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   <title>30cal accuracy issues : Ive been looking all over the...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/member_profile.asp?PF=643">kruzaroad</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 791<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30&nbsp;Apr&nbsp;2023 at 4:03am<br /><br /> Ive been looking all over the Web and I can't find a definitive  way to tell with out taking the stock off.<br /> My next sujestions would be get the serial number and write to hatsan customer service and ask them<br /> If they stopped making spring versions they should be able to tell from serial number. Everything I've read on the spring version seems to be as good as gas ram.<br /> ]]>
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   <title>30cal accuracy issues : I also have a Diana ntec magnum...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/member_profile.asp?PF=684">Freddiefx</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 791<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30&nbsp;Apr&nbsp;2023 at 3:02am<br /><br />I also have a Diana ntec magnum and there doesn't seem to be any noticeable difference in the sound between it and the hatsan when cocking. ]]>
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