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So what you guys are saying is if it doesn't have vortex on the barrel it's a springer? I'm not disagreeing but I am confused. This link is to a nz airgun website. It shows the rifle I have. The barrel doesn't say vortex, but in their spiel it says...vortex. Is there a way to tell without pulling the gun apart?

https://airrifle.co.nz/hatsan/135-qe-30.html

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Have a peek underneath where you can see the cocking arm going to the piston, you may be able to see a spring if it's the spring version but you will probably need to take the stock off.

If you do take the stock off take detailed photos o photos and upload them for us to see
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Wouldn't the cocking sound tell you?
There's no way you can miss the sound of the gas ram on the sig compared to either the tx or gamo spring I had.
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I also have a Diana ntec magnum and there doesn't seem to be any noticeable difference in the sound between it and the hatsan when cocking.
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Ive been looking all over the Web and I can't find a definitive way to tell with out taking the stock off.
My next sujestions would be get the serial number and write to hatsan customer service and ask them
If they stopped making spring versions they should be able to tell from serial number. Everything I've read on the spring version seems to be as good as gas ram.
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When you fire the hatsan in he spring version you can tell. They vibrate after firing and unless you take it apart and full the s[ring with grease it will be noticeable and the fact that the stock is against your cheek you can hear the "twang" sound it makes. The vortex piston just makes a "thud" sound like a hammer hitting a thick bit of wood.
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Well, its conclusive. Mines a springer. Photo attached. (Not the best quality but all I can get out of my tablet). Bit annoyed actually. Told by dealer it was gas piston. From what I gather now, the wooden stock guns are springers, the synthetic stock gas piston. Are spring guns any lesser than gas piston? Haven't had one for many years. I understand you can't leave them cocked like the gas pistons, but other than that I've no clue.



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If you've brought it off a site or shop that is advertising it as the gas ram, take a screenshot of the ad. If they given you a reciet that says vortex keep it. Tell them you want what they advertised. By law they have to provide you with it.
Or ask for a couple of free tins of pellets in compisation.

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From the research I've done the power/velocity is generally the same for a gas ram and springer Hatsan 135. 
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Are there differences in techniques re shooting and accuracy? Hold preferences etc?
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Interesting reading

https://www.reddit.com/r/airguns/comments/qf83pk/the_hatsan_135_qe_year_one_review_part_1/
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Yes I would be hitting up the dealer and sending them that photo as proof.
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My .30 Carnivore has been  trouble free since February 2020 and in excess of 1000 pellets.
It gets a wipe down with Ballistol after use and a drop of oil on any pivot points after each 250 pellets.

I had checked out numerous websites and reviews from both American and British users so was able to define spring as power source and walnut stock which was a real departure for me as I normally look for gas piston powered with easy care composite stocks. 

I was given a .30 off the rack to look at and get the feel of it.
Box has very little information but I was fully informed at point of sale.

I was advised of lack of pellet choice and use JSB Match Diablo Exact 2.9 grammes 44.7 grains dome head 7.62mm











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