.177 and .22or .22 and .25 for small game?

kruzaroad wrote: That is correct. The crossman 1322 is a pistol. It is however probly one of the most easily and accessable guns for modification. Parts being readily available for ehat ever mods you want. Both of mine are stocked and one has am longer barrel added. Steel breach added to both. Of all my guns 1322 has taken the most critters, which include rabbit at 8 and possum at a foot. Use it for finishing cats caught in live traps. It will pop a pigeon out of a tree. Mine are a basic set up. Haven't even increased the air volume or port size yet. Don't underestimate the 1322. Oh accurate as over its.usable distance. Try looking up custom crossman 1322 pictures on the web.

Yes wiehrach do synthetic stocks on some models.
I have hw97 blackline which is the synthetic stock version of hw97.
My diana which has impressed me way more than the weihrauch also is synthetic.
I'll probly be selling that hw with scope and spare spring and seals couple of tins of ftt 14.66gr which it loves after this scope arrives next week and i get to make sure the diana doesn't just kill it.

I have the diana the scope is coming.
Its an ar8, magnium springer. I went to by a telly 4.5 to restore and the guy showed me that and i brought it about 550 i think. Brand new still had box. Moderator added i think as i havent found any with mods on the stock model and the barrel is pretty short without it. Not crowned either.
Still shoots fine but no open sights due the alterations, which sux.

Edited by kruzaroad - 02 May 2026 at 5:34pm

RangerPete wrote: Hi Ashman, If you are still weighing up the merits of .177 vs .22 vs .25, I posted a pretty in depth comparison of penetrations and performance of all 3 calibers on my you tube channel a while ago. I compared all 3 calibers at 16FPE. If you are interested my channel is called #precisionpellet and the video was called comparing apples to apples or something like that… 😂

RangerPete wrote: Hi Ashman, If you are still weighing up the merits of .177 vs .22 vs .25, I posted a pretty in depth comparison of penetrations and performance of all 3 calibers on my you tube channel a while ago. I compared all 3 calibers at 16FPE. If you are interested my channel is called #precisionpellet and the video was called comparing apples to apples or something like that… 😂

Feels like that sort of comparison is ignoring the merits of the different cals to be honest, it's like comparing how fast a Ferrari is vs a Miata but driving them both at the speed limit for the test.

That would depend on what you think “the best”’ velocity is for each caliber….

Kruza, yes of course they will have different weight pellets, so I set up each rifle to be producing around 16FPE at the muzzel and then compared terminal ballistics of all 3 at different distances.
.177 with the lightest pellets will loose speed and FPE fastest the further it goes down range, .25 will retain the most speed and FPE at the same distances.
I think if I remember correctly I compaired them at realistic hunting distances, around 30ish, 40ish and 50ish yards.

That doesn't measure pellet preformance on the target. Which is what you alluding to.
To compare how different pellet cal preform in flesh or whatever medium the pellets hitting target at same velocity allows the pellet to deform create cavity and penitration depth on an equal footing,
Your doing fps and fpe drop comparison at target. Then checking the damage. Not an apples to apples pellet test on the pellets effect due to its cal.
Its still a valid test of energy drop, and difference of cal weight and energy retained. Thats great flight info, put the hold over/under into that as well and you get the pellet arc which is a major difference in the cals.
You were making great videos last time i checked, but that was a while ago and mostly you shooting rabbits. Time for revisit and see what else you've covered.