Kiwi Airgunners Forum : .177 and .22or .22 and .25 for small game? www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/ This is an XML content feed of; Kiwi Airgunners Forum : Pauly's Technical Area : .177 and .22or .22 and .25 for small game? Copyright (c) 2006-2012 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Tue, 09 Jun 2026 05:37:32 +0000 Tue, 12 May 2026 13:44:57 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 10.14 360 www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=1340 Kiwi Airgunners Forum www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_images/logo.jpg www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/ .177 and .22or .22 and .25 for small game? : The same power plant will not... www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1340&PID=14264#14264 Author: kruzaroad
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Posted: 12 May 2026 at 1:44pm

The same power plant will not produce equal fpe or fps at muzzle with different cal in a springer. Thats physics.
But your right Pete's test will be a lot closer than just two different random rifles.
You can download a ballistics app and play with wieght and size.


]]> Tue, 12 May 2026 13:44:57 +0000 www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1340&PID=14264#14264 .177 and .22or .22 and .25 for small game? : Hmmm..... I guess my point of... www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1340&PID=14263#14263 Author: JasonEdward
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Posted: 12 May 2026 at 1:30pm

Hmmm..... I guess my point of view is if I'm choosing a caliber I will be looking at the same powered rifle shooting the different pellets so for me Pete's comparison is more useful.
Identical muzzle velocity comparisons mean very different power outputs and totally different rifle, at least in set up. So two different apples and two different pellets for me is not so useful.

But then I have different caliber barrels for two of my air rifles so I may be highly biased toward Pete's methods. ]]> Tue, 12 May 2026 13:30:03 +0000 www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1340&PID=14263#14263 .177 and .22or .22 and .25 for small game? : That doesn't measure pellet... www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1340&PID=14243#14243 Author: kruzaroad
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Posted: 09 May 2026 at 11:47pm

That doesn't measure pellet preformance on the target. Which is what you alluding to.
To compare how different pellet cal preform in flesh or whatever medium the pellets hitting target at same velocity allows the pellet to deform create cavity and penitration depth on an equal footing,
Your doing fps and fpe drop comparison at target. Then checking the damage. Not an apples to apples pellet test on the pellets effect due to its cal.
Its still a valid test of energy drop, and difference of cal weight and energy retained. Thats great flight info, put the hold over/under into that as well and you get the pellet arc which is a major difference in the cals.
You were making great videos last time i checked, but that was a while ago and mostly you shooting rabbits. Time for revisit and see what else you've covered.




]]> Sat, 09 May 2026 23:47:29 +0000 www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1340&PID=14243#14243 .177 and .22or .22 and .25 for small game? : https://youtu.be/1crIHXetjIk?si=7FWhn2Oao9RA1xhC... www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1340&PID=14241#14241 Author: RangerPete
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Posted: 09 May 2026 at 10:15pm

https://youtu.be/1crIHXetjIk?si=7FWhn2Oao9RA1xhC]]> Sat, 09 May 2026 22:15:27 +0000 www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1340&PID=14241#14241 .177 and .22or .22 and .25 for small game? : That would depend on what you... www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1340&PID=14240#14240 Author: RangerPete
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Posted: 09 May 2026 at 10:13pm

That would depend on what you think “the best”’ velocity is for each caliber….

Kruza, yes of course they will have different weight pellets, so I set up each rifle to be producing around 16FPE at the muzzel and then compared terminal ballistics of all 3 at different distances.
.177 with the lightest pellets will loose speed and FPE fastest the further it goes down range, .25 will retain the most speed and FPE at the same distances.
I think if I remember correctly I compaired them at realistic hunting distances, around 30ish, 40ish and 50ish yards.]]> Sat, 09 May 2026 22:13:15 +0000 www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1340&PID=14240#14240 .177 and .22or .22 and .25 for small game? : Mintie wrote: RangerPete... www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1340&PID=14210#14210 Author: Ashman
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Posted: 07 May 2026 at 10:21pm

Originally posted by Mintie Mintie wrote:

Originally posted by RangerPete RangerPete wrote:

Hi Ashman,
If you are still weighing up the merits of .177 vs .22 vs .25, I posted a pretty in depth comparison of penetrations and performance of all 3 calibers on my you tube channel a while ago.
I compared all 3 calibers at 16FPE.
If you are interested my channel is called #precisionpellet and the video was called comparing apples to apples or something like that… 😂


Feels like that sort of comparison is ignoring the merits of the different cals to be honest, it's like comparing how fast a Ferrari is vs a Miata but driving them both at the speed limit for the test.


That's sensible.  Compare them both at their best, not one at their best and the other at its worst. 
]]> Thu, 07 May 2026 22:21:15 +0000 www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1340&PID=14210#14210 .177 and .22or .22 and .25 for small game? : RangerPete wrote:Hi Ashman,If... www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1340&PID=14209#14209 Author: Mintie
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Posted: 07 May 2026 at 4:12pm

Originally posted by RangerPete RangerPete wrote:

Hi Ashman,
If you are still weighing up the merits of .177 vs .22 vs .25, I posted a pretty in depth comparison of penetrations and performance of all 3 calibers on my you tube channel a while ago.
I compared all 3 calibers at 16FPE.
If you are interested my channel is called #precisionpellet and the video was called comparing apples to apples or something like that… 😂


Feels like that sort of comparison is ignoring the merits of the different cals to be honest, it's like comparing how fast a Ferrari is vs a Miata but driving them both at the speed limit for the test.

]]> Thu, 07 May 2026 16:12:30 +0000 www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1340&PID=14209#14209 .177 and .22or .22 and .25 for small game? : Have a question pete. Won't... www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1340&PID=14190#14190 Author: kruzaroad
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Posted: 06 May 2026 at 12:36pm

Have a question pete. Won't the different size cal have different weights?
Which means that theres different fpe at target for each cal.
So comparing apples to apples its a test of cal at same muzzle energy.
However if you want actual penitration data comparing slug preformance in whatever medium, shouldn't it be equal fpe at target?
Just a thought.

]]> Wed, 06 May 2026 12:36:39 +0000 www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1340&PID=14190#14190 .177 and .22or .22 and .25 for small game? : RangerPete wrote:Hi Ashman,If... www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1340&PID=14189#14189 Author: Ashman
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Posted: 06 May 2026 at 10:23am

Originally posted by RangerPete RangerPete wrote:

Hi Ashman,
If you are still weighing up the merits of .177 vs .22 vs .25, I posted a pretty in depth comparison of penetrations and performance of all 3 calibers on my you tube channel a while ago.
I compared all 3 calibers at 16FPE.
If you are interested my channel is called #precisionpellet and the video was called comparing apples to apples or something like that… 😂

Wicked, thanks,I'll have a gaze!
]]> Wed, 06 May 2026 10:23:18 +0000 www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1340&PID=14189#14189 .177 and .22or .22 and .25 for small game? : Hi Ashman,If you are still weighing... www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1340&PID=14188#14188 Author: RangerPete
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Posted: 06 May 2026 at 9:28am

Hi Ashman,
If you are still weighing up the merits of .177 vs .22 vs .25, I posted a pretty in depth comparison of penetrations and performance of all 3 calibers on my you tube channel a while ago.
I compared all 3 calibers at 16FPE.
If you are interested my channel is called #precisionpellet and the video was called comparing apples to apples or something like that… 😂
]]> Wed, 06 May 2026 09:28:09 +0000 www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1340&PID=14188#14188