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.177 and .22or .22 and .25 for small game?

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Why would the paper punches be smirking? Truthfully you'd be better off with targets than spinners as you can monitor your misses etc as you get use to gun. Checking wind drift of pellets etc.
Theres a cheap spinner target at gun city. A one inch and two inch circles . Push into ground. Page 102 of you got to be out there to see.
Perfect for taking on your trip. Light compact enough to sit in backpack light and simple.
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Spinners are great once you have your gun(s) dialled in but nothing beats paper for getting your gun dialled in.  Even a large piece of cardboard with a simple cross in black marker pen works well.  The big advantage with paper - as long as it is big enough, is that you can see if you are high, low ,left or right of you point of aim and adjust accordingly.

Even when you have your guns zeroed at what ever range you prefer, paper is best for working out your hold-overs and hold unders at different ranges.

Can't recall who came up with the bottle top challenge - Pauly5 I think?  It's an easy way to test your accuracy is up to par 
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if you can only have two air guns...

I'm a .177 shooter/hunter I only have two .177's but that's just because I got lucky but if I could only have two airguns I'd keep my prosport and buy a Diana 31 panther in .22 as I've had one of those and they're awesome, light, accurate (jsb14.3gr) a real outdoors bush basher food harvester with great T05 trigger, I see them at Youngs for $750 the same price as a Cometa Fusion which is a great springer also but it's not Diana level and then the Gamo's are 1k for budget airguns.

Brand is as important as Caliber.

You can buy a sh*t brand and it's a good one, but that's not common

Nowadays I look at survival, .177 and .22 pellets are everywhere. they used to be so much cheaper, I see some AA tins have doubled in price over 5 years and they will never be cheaper than now, so stock up while you can.

.25 I've never seen or tried so I dont know how common the pellets are but I bet they're not that common.

both .177 and .22 12-18ft/lb max with good shot placement will kill any small game in NZ and if the world turns to crap, both will head/neck a duck/goose rabbit/hare/possum out to 60m consistently with the right pellet and practice

I drive a hilux too, think practical if you want to survive



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True regarding the .25 pellets.  Places the GC have a very small selection however they have slugs galore, which I'm not a fan of for what i want.
I've got JSB Hades, Apolo Air Boss domed and Gamo Pro magnum on the way for testing, the latter 2 from Broncos and the JSB from .
I'll post up some results from those pellets.
It'll be hard to beat the .22. for accuracy, but the real test for that will be Friday at 50m.
I do like the magazine system however, and most air rifles don't offer that. It's added complexity, but you can also slide the mag aside and single load pellets too, so if that system fails, there is a fail safe.
There's a few camp sites I go to where getting a feed with either the .22 or .25 will be a goer.  They're places where quiet is good. I've used subsonic .22 in the past and distances are close.
I hear what you say about brand, but I'm not sure I agree.  I've had rifles and guns from many different manufacturers, and the logo is never a guarantee.  Remington, Beretta and Winchester have all let me down on occasion, despite their respective reputations.  And, in the case of Remington, that was before almost all their rifles were utter sh*te.
Having said that, I may replace the .25 with a single shot of some kind.  I've had 9 concussions and losing a magazine is not out of the realm of possibility.  I'll pick up a spare later this week, just in case, and I already have a spare for the .22.  Not a deal breaker, considering the single load capability, but just something to be aware of.
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concussions, you mean head injury and therefore loosing stuff ?

I just stick to straight forward single shots, dont matter if break barrel, side or under lever, as long as you got the pellet it likes and use good technique.

I've always been a .177 fan although years ago a mate went to aussie left me his diana 31 in .22 well that turned out to be an awesome food harvester.

thing is .177 and .22 are in desks , draws all  over the world, they like .22lr and 308 common as but .25, .30 like 6.5 or 204 not common, often hard to find.

I can go into most sport shops and buy a tin of something in a decent weight for .177 or .22 
Bump into someone and they probably got some pellets somewhere in those calibers, they're like diesel, they will never run out (all trains, trucks, ships, military vehicles all on diesel)

for accuracy at long range i stick to proven results, 10.34gr to 10.65 in .177 or 14.3 to 15.8gr in .22 most brands have something in that range.

Remington isnt a good brand in firearms, that's hype, better of with a Bergara

Thing with airguns is QC is often sh*t in airguns unless you paying top $, I've had big dollar springers  with inherent dramas but I have to say both these AA springers have been awesome.

I recently put a new spring in my prosport, never done that before, its twangy as but still awesome as. I might need to send that away, get a guide or something.

Good brands can often be bought at half price of a brand new one if you wait, watch.

I saw 3 tx200's on trademe a week ago, in 3 days they were all gone from $950 to $1500 little while back I seen Youngs had none, now the price is 2k, no mention of prosports anymore and I think they are more comfortable to shoot of me anyway but I will keep pushing forward with the tx.

End of the day .177 and .22 has killed everything in the small game world right back to the beginning when it was all iron sights. the animals havent changed, not any tougher but marketing creates perception.

They say beware the man who only has one gun, he probably knows how to use it...

 I know a few of them in the real world.

Any caliber will do the job if you do your part but you dont want to buy a 6.5 creed NO more in airguns when .177 and .22 are proven for decades upon decades

I'm just raving on lol
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