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   Haha it's a bug isn't it! Once you've made one........
Looks good tho, maybe we have nz's new custom stock maker in Wellington :)

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(pink)MIST Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Forum Moderator Joined: 10 Mar 2013 Location: Hamilton Status: Offline Posts: 465	Post Options Post Reply Quote (pink)MIST Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 Jul 2014 at 1:24am
	Haha it's a bug isn't it! Once you've made one........ Looks good tho, maybe we have nz's new custom stock maker in Wellington :)
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Pauly5 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Forum Moderator Joined: 11 Mar 2013 Location: Titahi Bay Status: Offline Posts: 1676	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pauly5 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 Jul 2014 at 3:06am
	I reckon we got the north island covered. Custom stocks and hooks. LOL Yea if you can't be shooting them, playing with them is next best. Edited by Pauly5 - 22 Jul 2014 at 3:07am

nunga Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Admin Joined: 09 Mar 2013 Location: Pukekohe Status: Offline Posts: 1083	Post Options Post Reply Quote nunga Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 Jul 2014 at 3:14am
	hay Pauly dont copy it to much! that stock is for me and it is meant to be a one off :) we cant have two of them knocking around lol :)

Pauly5 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Forum Moderator Joined: 11 Mar 2013 Location: Titahi Bay Status: Offline Posts: 1676	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pauly5 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 Jul 2014 at 2:02pm
	I know what you mean, there are some similarities around the trigger. I am making it for my HW95 but was copying my 97 stock and thinking of adding some 98 into it. A Weirauch hybrid. That's gonna look great with the grain. It will be an individual piece. Note i'm talking about bretts stock looking great, not blowing my own horn. I just re read it. Edited by Pauly5 - 23 Jul 2014 at 4:47am

(pink)MIST Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Forum Moderator Joined: 10 Mar 2013 Location: Hamilton Status: Offline Posts: 465	Post Options Post Reply Quote (pink)MIST Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 Jul 2014 at 3:31am
	Everyone is different if they're handmade. I see a lot of differences between them just at a glance. The one I'm doing is longer, with a mix of FWB and AA in the rear, plus the pistol grip angle and thumb slot, just to name a few. It's good to see people having a go rather than forking out the ridiculous dollars to import a bit of wood
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(pink)MIST Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Forum Moderator Joined: 10 Mar 2013 Location: Hamilton Status: Offline Posts: 465	Post Options Post Reply Quote (pink)MIST Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 Aug 2014 at 3:54pm
	Long time no updates here , sick kids taking priority. Fitted one of nungas adjustable butt hooks to it now , and have to say they're very race gun! A lot of adjustment, easy to fit and set up, one size Allen key for everything, and way below the cost of anything like it on the market. Top work nunga, , it's made this stock fit me so much better - now I just need to sort this damn shoulder out :) Here it is fitted, gotta have gun porn :)
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Pauly5 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Forum Moderator Joined: 11 Mar 2013 Location: Titahi Bay Status: Offline Posts: 1676	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pauly5 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 Sep 2014 at 2:57pm
	So I have pretty much finished the stock for my 95 and so I thought I would pull it apart today to have a look as I am going to drop it in power from about 890 to 750 fps. It will be my dedicated "sparrow gun" for the supermarkets. When I took the spring out, it came out in 4 pieces!! The small bits had been wound into the ends so it had the effect of giving it a short powerful stroke..... i'm guessing. Either that or it plain broke and has been firing ok anyway. Shot cycle had always been nice and smooth, no rattles, just a nice thuick! (not sure how you spell that). Put it back together with just the main spring and it fired nicely at around 615 fps. I will either put some spacers on the top hat, wind one section of spring back in or buy a new spring to bring it up to the 750 fps mark. Has anyone heard of the "inter-twined spring technique before"?

(pink)MIST Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Forum Moderator Joined: 10 Mar 2013 Location: Hamilton Status: Offline Posts: 465	Post Options Post Reply Quote (pink)MIST Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 Sep 2014 at 3:40pm
	Looks broken to me, the two pieces that would be the ends are closed/flat to mate against their respective surfaces squarely, I'd try closing the mainspring ends to be flat, and putting a spacer at each end, with larger spacer(s) at the piston end. Interesting that it still fired well though 😃
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Pauly5 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Forum Moderator Joined: 11 Mar 2013 Location: Titahi Bay Status: Offline Posts: 1676	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pauly5 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 Sep 2014 at 4:58pm
	I know, that's why I thought it was deliberate. I can see in theory that it would Work ok, just not best practice. I have smoothed off spring ends and will put washers in soon. Pic of stock with action too come.

nunga Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Admin Joined: 09 Mar 2013 Location: Pukekohe Status: Offline Posts: 1083	Post Options Post Reply Quote nunga Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 Sep 2014 at 3:12am
	Dont use spacers with that broken spring, it is broken to much and is too short now. You will find the coils will compress together and you wont be able to cock the gun by the time you space it up enough to get your FPS up. Also I think your High power gun has a heavier piston than the 12foot model so if you are planning to reduce the power you will need to replace the piston as well as the spring or you might run into problems. Brett, remember Glenn's problems with his gun siting in my workshop. He is using cut-down springs and spacers to get 12 foot pounds and look what he ended up using at the worlds.

(pink)MIST Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Forum Moderator Joined: 10 Mar 2013 Location: Hamilton Status: Offline Posts: 465	Post Options Post Reply Quote (pink)MIST Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 Sep 2014 at 4:04am
	True about Glenn's. Well documented on a lot of ft forums the procedure for cutting down, closing ends, quenching the spring so as not to make it brittle, and which way to run preload washers, spacers, and piston weights as well. For the use Paul's going to make it for, it's probably worth trying, as long as it's all squared off first. I think Glenn's spring may not have had the right procedures applied to the shortening of it, or to where the bulk of the weight was put in the spacers/piston weights/ top hat. Your call Paul, after all, you have it in hand and can make a judgement call on the springs condition
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Pauly5 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Forum Moderator Joined: 11 Mar 2013 Location: Titahi Bay Status: Offline Posts: 1676	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pauly5 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 Sep 2014 at 9:12am
	Tbh don't know too much. It was firing so smooth it's hard to imagine there was a problem. Cocking and firing had no funny clicks or noises. I might get a new spring from young's, he has one for $38 fac. So what problems arise when you put a weaker spring in? I understand that a packed out spring could compress and stop the trigger engaging.

Pauly5 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Forum Moderator Joined: 11 Mar 2013 Location: Titahi Bay Status: Offline Posts: 1676	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pauly5 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 Oct 2014 at 3:37pm
	Well I got a new spring and put it in. Fired nice but was firing at about 13-14 ftlb. So I wanted it down around 11-12. I cut the spring, heated it up with a butane torch and flattened the last coil, quenched it in oil then smoothed off the end. I also put a sleeve on the inside of the spring on the guide, and also on the piston end around the outside of the spring. This stopped the slight twang it had. It was now firing at about 10.5 ftlb which should be really good for shooting sparrows in the supermarkets. Reduced recoil, but enough power. I did the pellet on the turret thing and it stayed on, :) So now it is teamed up with a Nikko 4-12 x 44 and settled into the stock I was making. It's longer than the 95 stock in the front. Pretty much a copy of the 97. Wood is a type of Eucalyptus, finished with Tru Oil. I need to get a better fitting butt, but otherwise it's fit for work and off to the local Pak N Save soon. Photo is a bit blurry, just the phone camera. The cat loves to sit on the bags when i'm shooting. She will even bunt the barrel when aiming so I have to be careful. Edited by Pauly5 - 11 Oct 2014 at 3:41pm

(pink)MIST Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Forum Moderator Joined: 10 Mar 2013 Location: Hamilton Status: Offline Posts: 465	Post Options Post Reply Quote (pink)MIST Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 Oct 2014 at 3:43pm
	Nice! Only a trained eye would recognize its not a factory stock, that looks bloody good mate. That cat looks like its eaten all the sparrows you've shot....
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Pauly5 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Forum Moderator Joined: 11 Mar 2013 Location: Titahi Bay Status: Offline Posts: 1676	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pauly5 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 Oct 2014 at 3:49pm
	Kind of like a feline Who ate all the pies, it's who ate all the sparrows. :)