30cal accuracy issues

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   My .30 Carnivore has been  trouble free since February 2020 and in excess of 1000 pellets.It gets a wipe down with Ballistol after use and a drop of oil on any pivot points after each 250 pellets.

I had checked out numerous websites and reviews from both American and British users so was able to define spring as power source and walnut stock which was a real departure for me as I normally look for gas piston powered with easy care composite stocks. 

I was given a .30 off the rack to look at and get the feel of it.
Box has very little information but I was fully informed at point of sale.

I was advised of lack of pellet choice and use JSB Match Diablo Exact 2.9 grammes 44.7 grains dome head 7.62mm

Edited by mercs - 29 Apr 2023 at 8:40pm

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mercs Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 24 Apr 2020 Location: Stratford Status: Offline Posts: 272	Post Options Post Reply Quote mercs Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: 30cal accuracy issues Posted: 29 Apr 2023 at 8:39pm
	My .30 Carnivore has been trouble free since February 2020 and in excess of 1000 pellets. It gets a wipe down with Ballistol after use and a drop of oil on any pivot points after each 250 pellets. I had checked out numerous websites and reviews from both American and British users so was able to define spring as power source and walnut stock which was a real departure for me as I normally look for gas piston powered with easy care composite stocks. I was given a .30 off the rack to look at and get the feel of it. Box has very little information but I was fully informed at point of sale. I was advised of lack of pellet choice and use JSB Match Diablo Exact 2.9 grammes 44.7 grains dome head 7.62mm Edited by mercs - 29 Apr 2023 at 8:40pm

Billbobnz Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 13 Jun 2020 Location: Ashburton Status: Offline Posts: 867	Post Options Post Reply Quote Billbobnz Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 Apr 2023 at 5:45pm
	Yes I would be hitting up the dealer and sending them that photo as proof.

Ralph Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 20 Sep 2022 Location: Orewa Status: Offline Posts: 51	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ralph Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 Apr 2023 at 1:09pm
	Interesting reading https://www.reddit.com/r/airguns/comments/qf83pk/the_hatsan_135_qe_year_one_review_part_1/
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Freddiefx Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 27 Apr 2023 Location: Rotorua Status: Offline Posts: 10	Post Options Post Reply Quote Freddiefx Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 Apr 2023 at 11:42am
	Are there differences in techniques re shooting and accuracy? Hold preferences etc?

Ralph Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 20 Sep 2022 Location: Orewa Status: Offline Posts: 51	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ralph Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 Apr 2023 at 11:29am
	From the research I've done the power/velocity is generally the same for a gas ram and springer Hatsan 135.
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kruzaroad Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 02 Jul 2022 Location: Hastings 4 now Status: Offline Posts: 2284	Post Options Post Reply Quote kruzaroad Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 Apr 2023 at 10:42am
	If you've brought it off a site or shop that is advertising it as the gas ram, take a screenshot of the ad. If they given you a reciet that says vortex keep it. Tell them you want what they advertised. By law they have to provide you with it. Or ask for a couple of free tins of pellets in compisation. Edited by kruzaroad - 29 Apr 2023 at 10:44am

Freddiefx Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 27 Apr 2023 Location: Rotorua Status: Offline Posts: 10	Post Options Post Reply Quote Freddiefx Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 Apr 2023 at 10:33am
	Well, its conclusive. Mines a springer. Photo attached. (Not the best quality but all I can get out of my tablet). Bit annoyed actually. Told by dealer it was gas piston. From what I gather now, the wooden stock guns are springers, the synthetic stock gas piston. Are spring guns any lesser than gas piston? Haven't had one for many years. I understand you can't leave them cocked like the gas pistons, but other than that I've no clue. Edited by Freddiefx - 29 Apr 2023 at 11:40am

nunga Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Forum Moderator Joined: 08 Mar 2013 Location: Pukekohe Status: Offline Posts: 1009	Post Options Post Reply Quote nunga Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 Apr 2023 at 10:06am
	When you fire the hatsan in he spring version you can tell. They vibrate after firing and unless you take it apart and full the s[ring with grease it will be noticeable and the fact that the stock is against your cheek you can hear the "twang" sound it makes. The vortex piston just makes a "thud" sound like a hammer hitting a thick bit of wood.
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kruzaroad Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 02 Jul 2022 Location: Hastings 4 now Status: Offline Posts: 2284	Post Options Post Reply Quote kruzaroad Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 Apr 2023 at 10:03am
	Ive been looking all over the Web and I can't find a definitive way to tell with out taking the stock off. My next sujestions would be get the serial number and write to hatsan customer service and ask them If they stopped making spring versions they should be able to tell from serial number. Everything I've read on the spring version seems to be as good as gas ram.

Freddiefx Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 27 Apr 2023 Location: Rotorua Status: Offline Posts: 10	Post Options Post Reply Quote Freddiefx Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 Apr 2023 at 9:02am
	I also have a Diana ntec magnum and there doesn't seem to be any noticeable difference in the sound between it and the hatsan when cocking.