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If you are selling a weihrauch I know someone who might be keen. Actually not me, unless it's a 77 maybe, even though I shouldn't, but probably would. (Serious internal struggle)

Kind of like a feline Who ate all the pies, it's who ate all the sparrows. :)

Well I got a new spring and put it in. Fired nice but was firing at about 13-14 ftlb. So I wanted it down around 11-12. I cut the spring, heated it up with a butane torch and flattened the last coil, quenched it in oil then smoothed off the end. I also put a sleeve on the inside of the spring on the guide, and also on the piston end around the outside of the spring. This stopped the slight twang it had. It was now firing at about 10.5 ftlb which should be really good for shooting sparrows in the supermarkets. Reduced recoil, but enough power. I did the pellet on the turret thing and it stayed on, :)

So now it is teamed up with a Nikko 4-12 x 44 and settled into the stock I was making. It's longer than the 95 stock in the front. Pretty much a copy of the 97. Wood is a type of Eucalyptus, finished with Tru Oil. I need to get a better fitting butt, but otherwise it's fit for work and off to the local Pak N Save soon. Photo is a bit blurry, just the phone camera. The cat loves to sit on the bags when i'm shooting. She will even bunt the barrel when aiming so I have to be careful.

Edited by Pauly5 - 10 Oct 2014 at 9:41pm

True about Glenn's.
Well documented on a lot of ft forums the procedure for cutting down, closing ends, quenching the spring so as not to make it brittle, and which way to run preload washers, spacers, and piston weights as well.

For the use Paul's going to make it for, it's probably worth trying, as long as it's all squared off first.
I think Glenn's spring may not have had the right procedures applied to the shortening of it, or to where the bulk of the weight was put in the spacers/piston weights/ top hat.
Your call Paul, after all, you have it in hand and can make a judgement call on the springs condition

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I know, that's why I thought it was deliberate. I can see in theory that it would Work ok, just not best practice. I have smoothed off spring ends and will put washers in soon. Pic of stock with action too come.

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	When I know the model, I'll let you know.
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	If you are selling a weihrauch I know someone who might be keen. Actually not me, unless it's a 77 maybe, even though I shouldn't, but probably would. (Serious internal struggle)

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	I'm waiting on my next lump of wood, the search for just the right grain patterns and placement has begun. I've made a transparent pattern for the profile I want to cut, so I can try it on different angles and see what it might look like before I settle on a piece :) Next one might be a weirauch , or I might have a new weirauch for sale, just waiting to see what model it is
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	Kind of like a feline Who ate all the pies, it's who ate all the sparrows. :)

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	Nice! Only a trained eye would recognize its not a factory stock, that looks bloody good mate. That cat looks like its eaten all the sparrows you've shot....
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Pauly5 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Forum Moderator Joined: 10 Mar 2013 Location: Titahi Bay Status: Offline Posts: 1415	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pauly5 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 Oct 2014 at 9:37pm
	Well I got a new spring and put it in. Fired nice but was firing at about 13-14 ftlb. So I wanted it down around 11-12. I cut the spring, heated it up with a butane torch and flattened the last coil, quenched it in oil then smoothed off the end. I also put a sleeve on the inside of the spring on the guide, and also on the piston end around the outside of the spring. This stopped the slight twang it had. It was now firing at about 10.5 ftlb which should be really good for shooting sparrows in the supermarkets. Reduced recoil, but enough power. I did the pellet on the turret thing and it stayed on, :) So now it is teamed up with a Nikko 4-12 x 44 and settled into the stock I was making. It's longer than the 95 stock in the front. Pretty much a copy of the 97. Wood is a type of Eucalyptus, finished with Tru Oil. I need to get a better fitting butt, but otherwise it's fit for work and off to the local Pak N Save soon. Photo is a bit blurry, just the phone camera. The cat loves to sit on the bags when i'm shooting. She will even bunt the barrel when aiming so I have to be careful. Edited by Pauly5 - 10 Oct 2014 at 9:41pm

Pauly5 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Forum Moderator Joined: 10 Mar 2013 Location: Titahi Bay Status: Offline Posts: 1415	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pauly5 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 Sep 2014 at 3:12pm
	Tbh don't know too much. It was firing so smooth it's hard to imagine there was a problem. Cocking and firing had no funny clicks or noises. I might get a new spring from young's, he has one for $38 fac. So what problems arise when you put a weaker spring in? I understand that a packed out spring could compress and stop the trigger engaging.

(pink)MIST Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Forum Moderator Joined: 09 Mar 2013 Location: Hamilton Status: Offline Posts: 465	Post Options Post Reply Quote (pink)MIST Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 Sep 2014 at 10:04am
	True about Glenn's. Well documented on a lot of ft forums the procedure for cutting down, closing ends, quenching the spring so as not to make it brittle, and which way to run preload washers, spacers, and piston weights as well. For the use Paul's going to make it for, it's probably worth trying, as long as it's all squared off first. I think Glenn's spring may not have had the right procedures applied to the shortening of it, or to where the bulk of the weight was put in the spacers/piston weights/ top hat. Your call Paul, after all, you have it in hand and can make a judgement call on the springs condition
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	Dont use spacers with that broken spring, it is broken to much and is too short now. You will find the coils will compress together and you wont be able to cock the gun by the time you space it up enough to get your FPS up. Also I think your High power gun has a heavier piston than the 12foot model so if you are planning to reduce the power you will need to replace the piston as well as the spring or you might run into problems. Brett, remember Glenn's problems with his gun siting in my workshop. He is using cut-down springs and spacers to get 12 foot pounds and look what he ended up using at the worlds.

Pauly5 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Forum Moderator Joined: 10 Mar 2013 Location: Titahi Bay Status: Offline Posts: 1415	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pauly5 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 Sep 2014 at 10:58pm
	I know, that's why I thought it was deliberate. I can see in theory that it would Work ok, just not best practice. I have smoothed off spring ends and will put washers in soon. Pic of stock with action too come.