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    Posted: 30 Jan 2024 at 2:55pm
Thought I should post some basic details of my pellet trap after checking its condition following some alignment shots with my new Wildcat .25 cal tonight.

It's based on the standard duct sealant design you'll find on Youtube with a few differences. 

The sides are sawn pine with 12mm ply front and rear panels.  Inside the rear panel is some 3mm alloy checker plate (as a backstop) with strips of duct seal about 25-30mm thick pressed onto it.
On the front of that I fastened with small nails into the timber sides (staples just bent over) thin Kevlar fabric that I'd purchased from AliExpress, folded into about 10 layers and sewn together with the wife's sewing machine.

To hold the targets I use some scrap Coreflute cut to size and small blobs of Blutack.

The Kevlar is pretty mangled now but even though it's mono-directional it still stops most pellets dead at the 10m range I use it 99% of the time.  I thought they would eventually make their way through the mangled fibres into the sealant and I'm sure many have, but most seem to either fall back or get hung up.  Ive attached some photos of the JSB Heavies I used tonight, the really mangled one was caught in the Kevlar fibres and the other two were one on top of the other deep in the sealant.

Anyway, it works better than I expected so I thought it might be of interest.  If anyone wants a full build guide let me know -  I'm happy to add a more detailed description to this post.












Edited by KiwiTR6 - 30 Jan 2024 at 2:55pm
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Nice work. I have a pellet trap that’s filled with shredded tyre.
Slide in 5mm MDF as a back board to mount the target, then about 200mm deep of tyre at the back.
Only problem is it’s hefty and weighs about 10kg..
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Interesting pellet trap Kiwi, but what I’d really like to see is pics of ur ew Wildcat .25!!!!
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That's a great design.
If your not getting ricochet at 10m definitely doing it's job well.
Put a more detailed build up. Be good to see and potentially just what someone visiting the site may be looking for as a DIY pellet trap.
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Nice work. What are the clips you’ve used to hold the paper target in place please?
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Originally posted by Declan Declan wrote:

Nice work. What are the clips you’ve used to hold the paper target in place please?


I may be wrong but they look line mouse traps??
Great idea if they are!
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Originally posted by Declan Declan wrote:

Nice work. What are the clips you’ve used to hold the paper target in place please?


The metalwork from a couple of cheap mouse traps repurposed!  When I get around to filling all of the collateral pellet damage and repainting the front panel I'll relocate one of them to the top center position and remove the second - two is overkill :)  I used these as they were cheap and I figured they would be less likely to cause ricochet issues than say a pressed steel paper clamp.

The Coreflute sits in a slotted piece of timber at the base.
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Originally posted by RangerPete RangerPete wrote:

Interesting pellet trap Kiwi, but what I’d really like to see is pics of ur ew Wildcat .25!!!!


Just for you Pete!

Currently fitted with a DonnyFL suppressor and my Vixen 4-16x44 scope.  I have a Pard DS35 for it as well but I'll start with the standard optics.


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Great job there. I'm guessing the hits around the edge are from testing the $100 gun?Big smile

The WC looks great. I got a couple of printed mags from Orion Iguana for mine, and they are really good mags if you are ever after more.
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Anyone tried the STUD mags? 
https://www.dlhdev.com/
He reckons the FX mags damage slugs / pellets causing accuracy issues and these mags are the solution.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_U-133bMTg&t=632s
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Don't know anything about the fx but my gamo was damaging pellets off its mag system.
It would seem to me that any system that requires a pellet to be pushed through one chamber to another with no way correcting a slightly off line pellet, weather it be it was undersized, or oversized, it runs the risk of damaging a pellet.
There is also the problem of the probe possibly not fitting a pellet as well as it should (no one seems to make pellet specific probes) (I'll have one for hades and one for AA field in 22 Pauly 😁) and causing a pellet to move from the mag to barrel.Espially if there is a big lead in to the rifling.
Even in single shot with the 1322 I have times when the pellet starts grab as I push it with the bolt. To correct this I point the gun down and correct with my finger, where upon it tends to fall happily all the way into the barrel.
Air rifle mags don't load a whole cartridge and as such don't have a long brass cylinder to help with alignment. Any misalignment is going to directly affect the projectile.
Though this can be reduced with tight tolerance on parts, if your not sorting pellets you still run into the issue of missized pellets.
I'm assuming a slug would receive damage along the sloped edge and nose if this were to happen.
This is my view and I have never done any testing to back this up.
I think any mag has the potential to damage a pellet and the alignment of the system and the amount of play between the mag and rifling engagement is going to be a big factor in this.
As I said, this is speculation on my behalf and is not backed up by any data I have to hand.
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As a side note, revolvers, which is the closest to the mags used in this example do not preload the bullet into the barrel. All alignment is done in the cylinder with the bullet being left to jump the gap between the cylinder and barrel. It is ready lined up before a huge force creates the jump.

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Originally posted by Pauly5 Pauly5 wrote:

Great job there. I'm guessing the hits around the edge are from testing the $100 gun?Big smile

The WC looks great. I got a couple of printed mags from Orion Iguana for mine, and they are really good mags if you are ever after more.


Hi Paul.

Yes, damage from the challenge gun and a few others during initial scope alignment.  I really should be doing that outdoors with a big backing board but that's too much hassle.

I also have a couple of the Orion Iguana mags in bright green so there's no mistaking which gun they're for!  Very similar to the STUD mag and the same price.
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I’ve only ever owned one revolver, a Taurus Raging Bull in .454 Casull.
Once the bullet left the cylinder it crossed a tiny gap (less the a mill) and entered a cone shaped area called the “forcing cone” the mouth of which was slightly bigger then the bore, and just incase the cylinder hadn’t locked up and aligned correctly, it “forced” the bullet into alignment with the barrel as it passed through. It was only about 5mm long before the lands and grooves started but it seemed to work.
From the many hundereds of reloads I put through that revolver, (shooting a 375gr lump of lead, from a hand gun!!!) I can’t recall any flyers, it must have worked.
I wonder if air rifle manufacturers have ever tried a design like that. All it would require is a slightly longer pellet probe to push through the additional 5mm, and a slightly longer stroke of the cocking/loading action.
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