What make and age is this rifle?

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   Good morning all,
I have recently been offered this old air rifle that is in quite a bad state.

does anyone recognize this as to what make and model this is, and also what approximate age this rifle is?

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Billbobnz Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 13 Jun 2020 Location: Ashburton Status: Offline Posts: 765	Post Options Post Reply Quote Billbobnz Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: What make and age is this rifle? Posted: 14 Jun 2021 at 10:26am
	Good morning all, I have recently been offered this old air rifle that is in quite a bad state. does anyone recognize this as to what make and model this is, and also what approximate age this rifle is?

dvlnme Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 30 May 2017 Location: taranaki Status: Offline Posts: 519	Post Options Post Reply Quote dvlnme Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 Jun 2021 at 11:32am
	thats an oldy Will,looks like and old qauckenbush,think spelt that right,you been rooting round in old sheds again??got that desease myself eh!!amazing whats still out there,i come accross old firearms and airguns quite often in somes back shed no ones been into since grandad died years before,lot old interesting things in old disused sheds eh!!all my airgun books out on loan so cant positivly identify the rifle for you. cheers mike

Billbobnz Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 13 Jun 2020 Location: Ashburton Status: Offline Posts: 765	Post Options Post Reply Quote Billbobnz Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 Jun 2021 at 12:01pm
	Thanks Mike, I haven't brought it yet. I brought some old tools of a old guy and got talking before he dug this out. Barrel looks like it could be rusted out and the cocking system isn't working. May be just a display rifle but will see what I can do to restore it.

J-S Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 19 Oct 2014 Location: Auckland Status: Offline Posts: 356	Post Options Post Reply Quote J-S Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 Jun 2021 at 4:20pm
	could be a Gem. The issue of restoring could be availability of parts - anything missing or damaged would most likely have to be machined. But see what he wants for it, it may be worth tidying up as much as possible to see if it has potential to go, and if not it would be a cool wall hanger.
	J S Airguns Air Arms TX200('s) Theoben Sirocco HW77 FWB 300s Webley Patriot One or two others... Current projects: Too many..

Billbobnz Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 13 Jun 2020 Location: Ashburton Status: Offline Posts: 765	Post Options Post Reply Quote Billbobnz Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 Jun 2021 at 6:06pm
	Thanks for that, he came back to me this afternoon with a price tag of $100 so Im stupid not to take it. Done a little investigation as to the make/model but cannot find anything that resembles this design yet. The only numbers or markings that I could find is the serial numbers in the breech (0326)

dvlnme Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 30 May 2017 Location: taranaki Status: Offline Posts: 519	Post Options Post Reply Quote dvlnme Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 Jun 2021 at 8:25am
	bit of a shame some one used center punch to stake barrel in,making parts shouldnt be problem as long as the origional broken or worn parts still there for patterns,will be quite simple mechanically would think, cheers mike

J-S Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 19 Oct 2014 Location: Auckland Status: Offline Posts: 356	Post Options Post Reply Quote J-S Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 Jun 2021 at 10:43am
	Nice, for that price why not!. Looks to have been many brands that made Gem type air rifles, including Diana. Once you clean it up some makers marks may appear.
	J S Airguns Air Arms TX200('s) Theoben Sirocco HW77 FWB 300s Webley Patriot One or two others... Current projects: Too many..

dvlnme Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 30 May 2017 Location: taranaki Status: Offline Posts: 519	Post Options Post Reply Quote dvlnme Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 Jun 2021 at 12:59pm
	be nice project for you,something bit different allways fun. cheers mike

Billbobnz Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 13 Jun 2020 Location: Ashburton Status: Offline Posts: 765	Post Options Post Reply Quote Billbobnz Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 Jun 2021 at 1:40pm
	Picked it up last night, is missing the piston spring. The leather piston seal looks ok and is still fitting well in piston chamber. Spider web in the barrel and actually looks not too bad down inside. From a whole lot of research well into the night going by the shape of the trigger guard, barrel size etc... Is it could be a Flurscheim/Bergmann Gem from between 1880-1900. All I can find so far is the serial number and a couple of other numbers on the trigger sear and guard. Will keep you all posted Edited by Billbobnz - 16 Jun 2021 at 1:40pm

Pauly5 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 10 Mar 2013 Location: Titahi Bay Status: Offline Posts: 1172	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pauly5 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 Jun 2021 at 7:07pm
	Interesting looking gun.