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Originally posted by JasonEdward JasonEdward wrote:

Any updates?

What a very beautiful rifle you have made. Just lovely.

Does it group up well?

One question i need to ask you who know - for best accuracy, is it a good idea to keep power down to the Brits under 12 requirement or can springer shoot as straight with more power?


Cheers; At the moment its in the safe, only a small job to do which is smooth out the cocking slot for a screw to ride in that keeps the piston centred; its a bit tight and gritty but other than that it shoots well.

Power vs accuracy is often a matter of pellet choice and getting used to how the rifle likes to be shot.
considering the HW77, full power is only around 15-16fpe so no magnum anyway so its not a huge difference to the uk power. Ive had the most changes in my TX200, which summarised below:

(the TX200 mkiii is really made for export / high power, so the brits are less keen on this one compared to the older mkii which was 12fpe)
- Factory standard full power - 15ish fpe; snappy cycle with a bit of thump, stacked pellets with JSB exact Heavy 10.34gr. 
- added spring guides from TBT - made rifle smoother but didnt change power or accuracy

- reduced power for target shooting with TBT short sproke extension; this uses the full power spring for a quick snappy cycle with less felt recoil, and reduced air volume which basically replicates the older mkii.  Best pellet now JSB exact Express (hates the heavies now with reduced power) and around 11fpe

- went to a skirtless piston from UK, recoil is reduced further, spring is still a strong spring so a quick cycle - very efficient. similar power to above but slightly lower, now it likes QYS Streamlined pellets which is unfortunate because they arent readily available here.. JSB Express are second in line.

so a matter of getting used to the rifle and how it shoots, how it likes to be held, and pellet testing when you change power. magnum power will be harder to control, think 22fpe HW80, Diana magnums etc, but if they have a good barrel and predictable trigger they have the potential to be just as accurate as low power if you do your part - low power is just easier to achieve the accuracy / consistency..
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Agree with J-S, power and accuracy are not necessarily tied together.
Powerful springers can be very accurate (one of the members here has a big Diana 56 pushing over 20FPE thats a tack driver), and lower power springers can shoot horribly....
Its all about searching for that perfect combination of rifle, pellet, and shooter.

Of corse it does help if you start your search holding a good quality rifle in your hands
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The sig was a 20fpe and as accurate as.
But it's fpe at target, which mid range muzzle energy, tends to be softer on recoil and carries power out 80m/100m.
Or so I have found.
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