![]() |
Down the rabbit hole |
Post Reply
|
Page <1 23456> |
| Author | |
CuteRabbit
Senior Member
Joined: 18 Jan 2023 Location: Albany Auckland Status: Offline Posts: 120 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 02 Feb 2023 at 6:03pm |
Well. Not reallyThe whole story is that my friend I mentioned above insist no rifled barrel in cheap air guns( he has a CR600 CO2). So I took my two rifles to show him. And this time he insist that's not rifle lines...? because it is straight... We use flash light to look into it as deep as we and seems straight... I said maybe the twist rate is very very super low so seems like straight... and He laughed loud... And yes, it is not like pics of real gun rifle lines online. Maybe lines are straight at the both ends but that makes no sense???
|
|
|
Squirrel goes Vege
@Crosman Benjamin Ironhide .22 Nitro Piston Elite @Umarex Surgemax .177 Gas Ram 1000fps |
|
![]() |
|
kruzaroad
Senior Member
Joined: 03 Jul 2022 Location: Hastings 4 now Status: Offline Posts: 2622 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 02 Feb 2023 at 5:35pm |
|
Do you just write stuff for attention?
Why would they make a barrel with strait rifling. It would be cheaper to put no rifling in and it would do the same thing. How old are you cute rabbit, just out of a point of interest. |
|
![]() |
|
kruzaroad
Senior Member
Joined: 03 Jul 2022 Location: Hastings 4 now Status: Offline Posts: 2622 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 02 Feb 2023 at 5:29pm |
|
Not as likely to be ruined. My roadster wasn't a magium and it still killed scopes. It's about how hard it recoils. It had a 5mm washer at the back of the gas ram I took out which made it a bit of a forward shock.
Best bet is to either see what scopes other ppl have used that are good ( like in mercs review) or spend money on a higher quality scope. Which can easily be 3x what your junior cost you. Start looking at scope reviews along with all the other air rifle stuff your learning. |
|
![]() |
|
CuteRabbit
Senior Member
Joined: 18 Jan 2023 Location: Albany Auckland Status: Offline Posts: 120 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 02 Feb 2023 at 5:21pm |
Just checked my Stalker Jr. and Umarex Surgemax's barrel again. They are rifled but looks like with 0 twist rate, straight rifle lines??? Shell them be twisted lines just like lines in real gun barrels???![]()
|
|
|
Squirrel goes Vege
@Crosman Benjamin Ironhide .22 Nitro Piston Elite @Umarex Surgemax .177 Gas Ram 1000fps |
|
![]() |
|
CuteRabbit
Senior Member
Joined: 18 Jan 2023 Location: Albany Auckland Status: Offline Posts: 120 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 02 Feb 2023 at 5:19pm |
thats a brilliant idea of sun-glasses haha
|
|
|
Squirrel goes Vege
@Crosman Benjamin Ironhide .22 Nitro Piston Elite @Umarex Surgemax .177 Gas Ram 1000fps |
|
![]() |
|
CuteRabbit
Senior Member
Joined: 18 Jan 2023 Location: Albany Auckland Status: Offline Posts: 120 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 02 Feb 2023 at 5:15pm |
|
Thanks. So if not magnum, air rifle rated scope won't be easy to be ruined by piston rifle?
|
|
|
Squirrel goes Vege
@Crosman Benjamin Ironhide .22 Nitro Piston Elite @Umarex Surgemax .177 Gas Ram 1000fps |
|
![]() |
|
FPM
Groupie
Joined: 01 Jan 2023 Location: New Zealand Status: Offline Posts: 56 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 02 Feb 2023 at 4:59pm |
|
Also get hearing protection if you get a Gamo Magnum.
|
|
![]() |
|
Billbobnz
Senior Member
Joined: 14 Jun 2020 Location: Ashburton Status: Offline Posts: 918 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 02 Feb 2023 at 2:19pm |
|
You also mentioned that your umarex is heavier than your friends Gamo. Use the extra weight that your Umarex has to your advantage. A heavier rifle will generally shoot more accuratly than a lighter rifle for target shooting. You will get used to the weight.
Edited by Billbobnz - 02 Feb 2023 at 2:20pm |
|
![]() |
|
Billbobnz
Senior Member
Joined: 14 Jun 2020 Location: Ashburton Status: Offline Posts: 918 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 02 Feb 2023 at 1:13pm |
|
Cuterabbit, 3 things for you to try when you are next target practicing.
1. Push your shoulder slightly forwards and nestle the but of the stock in where your collarbone is. By doing this it will hold the but of the stock from moving during the shot cycle. If you have your shoulder relaxed and backwards, it allows too much movement resulting in shots spreading downrange. 2. Keep both eyes open. Get a cheap pair of sunglasses and put tape over the eye your not looking through the scope with and pop the glass out on your scope eye. By keeping both eyes open you get a clearer image through the scope. 3. Make sure all the bolts attaching the action to the stock are tight. Re check these every couple of weeks. Also once you have cocked the rifle, hold the rifle horizontal and move the barrel up and where ever you let it go, the barrel should not fall back down and point towards the ground. If the barrel is too loose you will need to tighten the bolt that the barrel piviots on. This will help eliminate any movement and also greatly increase your accuracy. Check your scope mounts too. Let us know if these tips help? Edited by Billbobnz - 02 Feb 2023 at 1:15pm |
|
![]() |
|
Pauly5
Forum Moderator
Joined: 11 Mar 2013 Location: Titahi Bay Status: Offline Posts: 1663 |
Post Options
Thanks(2)
Quote Reply
Posted: 02 Feb 2023 at 12:31pm |
|
It's great that there's lots of activity here guys, but just a word of warning not to imply or suggest self defence as a reason to use our airguns. I'm sure any gun related forum is monitored, and so please stop and think before posting.
Really enjoying all the talk though. |
|
![]() |
|
kruzaroad
Senior Member
Joined: 03 Jul 2022 Location: Hastings 4 now Status: Offline Posts: 2622 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 02 Feb 2023 at 5:50am |
|
Does that make sence to you?
|
|
![]() |
|
kruzaroad
Senior Member
Joined: 03 Jul 2022 Location: Hastings 4 now Status: Offline Posts: 2622 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 02 Feb 2023 at 5:29am |
|
Do you spend any time researching stuff?
A rifle scope has moving parts in it. Those moving parts are made to take recoil (you know the unbelievable recoil of your umerex) In a powder rifle they are made to take a backwards recoil, because that is all a powder rifle has, backwards recoil into your shoulder. In a spring or gas ram air rifle there are two types of recoil, a forward one as the piston hits the end of the cylinder and the backwards one like a powder rifle has. As a powder rifle scope is only made to take the backwards recoil and not the forwards recoil, this means if you put a powder rifle scope on on a spring or gas piston rifle everytime you shoot it, it will get a jolt forward as the piston hits the end of the cylinder, which the scope has not been made to take. This will eventually shake the moving bits inside and they will come loose. When this happens the the cross hairs will move and won't be where you set them too. You won't hit where you are aiming because they have moved. In an air rifle rated scope they know that there is a forward and backward shock to the scope, so they make the moving bits in the scope to be able to take the forwards and backwards jolt that happens in a spring or gas piston air rifle. This means that the moving bits in the scope don't shake loose and the scope stays on target. Thats a very basic description. Get on the Internet and look it up. Guns like the gamo magnums have a very heavy recoil and are known to break (shake the moving bits loose) scopes that arnt well made even if they are for air rifles . Before you ask, an air rifle rated scope can be used on a powder rifle. It is not a good idea to use powder rifle scope on an air rifle. Pcp and pump up air rifles do not have to use a air rifle rated scope as they do not have a big heavy piston crashing into the end the cylinder when firing a shot. So that don't have the a big forward jolt like a spring or gas piston. |
|
![]() |
|
CuteRabbit
Senior Member
Joined: 18 Jan 2023 Location: Albany Auckland Status: Offline Posts: 120 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 02 Feb 2023 at 4:39am |
actually still can't understand what nunga say. since everyone say so, I just assume that piston rifle are really not friendly to any scope
|
|
|
Squirrel goes Vege
@Crosman Benjamin Ironhide .22 Nitro Piston Elite @Umarex Surgemax .177 Gas Ram 1000fps |
|
![]() |
|
kruzaroad
Senior Member
Joined: 03 Jul 2022 Location: Hastings 4 now Status: Offline Posts: 2622 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 01 Feb 2023 at 8:14am |
|
Probly not a silly idea. A spare scope is always handy in case one fails.
I kept my gamo scope, and are using on 1322 till I can afford another one, after the gamo killed the $300 gun City air rifle rated one I put on it. |
|
![]() |
|
CuteRabbit
Senior Member
Joined: 18 Jan 2023 Location: Albany Auckland Status: Offline Posts: 120 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 01 Feb 2023 at 7:43am |
wow,so I should try to save my Stealth scope from Beeman 16015GP
|
|
|
Squirrel goes Vege
@Crosman Benjamin Ironhide .22 Nitro Piston Elite @Umarex Surgemax .177 Gas Ram 1000fps |
|
![]() |
|
Post Reply
|
Page <1 23456> |
|
Tweet
|
| Forum Jump | Forum Permissions ![]() You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot create polls in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum |