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WinkWinkWinkThanks, that is a brilliant idea. By the way, I haven't clean my guns since I got them. Should buy a clean set someday.
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Before you do, be aware that a lot of ppl don't think you should use cleaning rods in air rifles and pull throughs are thier choice.
Some ppl say you don't clean an air rifle barrel till it's accuracy goes.
After you clean it will will need to fire a 20 odd shots through it to relead the barrel (that's how many I do)
You can look up cleaning air rifle barrels on Web. Don't just read one, you need to read a few as there are a few differnt reasons why people think differnt things.
I'll be interested to see what the twist rate is on your rifle. Check it's not on barrel, but I think that's more cartridge rifles.
Also the pellets out of air rifles are can fly strait without rifling thier shape is very stable, however the twist helps to over come the air making the pellet unstable as it pushes past as it leaves the barrel. Has other advantages in flight too. If your rifle has strait rifling by some wierd chance I'd think about changing barrels.
Its something for ball shot which is a totally differnt dynamic for flight.
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ClapClapClap Cool. and ppl means people?
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Set up table and chair, re-sight in... start raining...
6shots group after sight in, with gun-rest shell on table.Cry
Recoil is heavy, I can feel the shell moving and table shaking...



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Do you have a starp across the back of the rifle? Do you use the front strap?
Have you tried differnt pellets?
What pellets are you using?
How big are the groups?
Definitely a lot better than the last target.
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Cuterabbit, you should try a few different pellets.

Get flat nose (which I think you already have) and domed/diablo pellets.

Looking at the target you have shot and looking at the paper tears the pellets may be tumbling or spiralling when they hit. Therefore there isn't a clean punch through the paper. (Others may be able to comment on this)

Once you have a selection of pellets. Do 5 shot of each pellet on their own target and look for grouping and how clean the holes.


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This is how to read your shots

Blue is your group, red are what we call fliers (generally caused by a damaged pellet) or a poor shot or form.

The purple arrows point to the paper tear I was talking about earlier and most likely caused by a off balance pellet.



Generally with myself. If I do a poor shot it's because I've flinched or closed my eyes when I've taken the shot.

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Buy a H&N sample pack of pellets. And see high quality flat nose (go to young's air guns on dominion road for these)
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Paper tear may also be the target not held firm against the backing board.
Looks like from top pic that it's only held on by couple of pegs and is paper.
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Thanks. Doing a lot adjustment and finally find out that the scope is leaning toward right becasue the srews on each mount side are not equally tightened... So the former sight-in work won't fix this problem totally. Re do it and will try flat nose and round nose tomorrow if not rainning.
Flat nose- guncity
Round nose- Winchester (made in Spain so is good?)Wink
Will try:
rest-sandbag
normoal standing
an alternative pose of artillery hold (fold left arm, use the elbow to hold the gun, left hand grabing right wrist rather than use left hand to hold it)


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I bought a new BSA scope recently which was factory fitted on its rail mount. But I thought I would check it with my Accutech level and sure enough it was off.

I suggest you consider this if you don't already have one:
https://www.guncity.com/accutech-reticle-level-kit-379898

I don't bother with a cleaning set. Just Rem Oil and paper towels. If your rifle has a factory fitted and fixed moderator like the Gamo and BSA, then bore cleaning is a risky proposition. Personally, I don't bother. Its not like there is combustion as in a powder rifle.

I have a safe dehumidifier which I pull out every week or so and plug in overnight. Definitely an item worth having if your rifles are stored in an enclosed location like a safe (as they should be).


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I use a string line with a heavy weight which I line the vertical cross hair up with, and a string line bubble level on the rifle on a flat machined face(usually one on top of rifle somewhere) for setting scope.
Have used the edge of builders level instead of string line.
Though what you suggest is a way more practical solution, and can be used to make sure you arnt canting rifle when shooting.
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Winkthanks,gonna visit guncity someday recently I think
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I think I didn't make it clearly, this pic is what i say
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