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    Posted: 17 Jan 2018 at 3:49pm
Hi all, 

Just signed up so I can start asking some questions and learn more. I was looking on TradeMe the other day and was watching a PCP pistol that was advertised on another NZ forum. It was the FX Ranchero in .22 which I didn't bid on as when auction was listed it stated that you need a FAL which is what I thought too, but after auction had closed I read people in the comments were saying you don't need a FAL due to the length as it is not over 762mm long. Gave Youngs Airgun Centre a call today and learnt that due to the recent law change 18 months ago if PCP pistols are imported into the country after that law change which requires a FAL to import they then require a FAL to be sold, but any pistols that were purchased before that can be sold without a FAL needed. Make sense? 

So I thought this would be a good place to start to possibly find one that somebody is selling 


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Hi there,

Yes they are becoming rare pcp pistols. Yes that makes sense to me.
I hope you find one.

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I'm not a lawer, so I may be completely wrong. As far as a know, it is not against the law to own or sell a pcp pistol without a FAL. But the police have found a somewhat underhand way of limiting access to air pistols by making it difficult to get an import permit. I suspect that they made it a condition of Ron's import permit that he only sell to individuals with a  FAL. I don't think the police can control who the original buyer then sells the pistol to.
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Hi, 

Thanks for the responses. Does everybody here that owns the more powerful PCP pistols have a FAL or needed one to purchase? Besides Youngs Airgun Centre I don't think there is any other airgun shop that brings in the PCP hunting pistols. I purchased my first pistol which was a Zoraki HP-01 Ultra a couple of months ago, but have found my self caught by what i've read is called the "bug" haha so looking at getting something a bit above the current pistol that I own. He told me due to him having to bring them in with a FAL, they therefor require a FAL to sell on. So my only chance is secondhand which is why I thought this would be a good place to start.
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I own a marauder pistol with stock, aka P Rod, and do have my fal. I had a second one that I sold in pistol form to someone without a fal.

You could look at the crosman 2240 type pistol. They are CO2, by they are accurate and based on the same platform as the P Rod. There's also something like an air chief cpm1 m. Again CO2, but has a magazine.

Have you tried magair?
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Yes, I have looked at that option, not keen on CO2. I'm not bothered really about the magazine, single shot would be fine. I looked on there website, do they stock more in store than they advertise on their website?

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I would email Alex there. He can tell you if they have anything in stock.
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Originally posted by Player01 Player01 wrote:

Yes, I have looked at that option, not keen on CO2. I'm not bothered really about the magazine, single shot would be fine. I looked on there website, do they stock more inshore than they advertise on their website?


They do stock more than whats on their site. It would be best to ring him, if he hasnt got what you want he can probably get it in no problem.
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PCP pistols are pretty hard to come by in NZ, and yes some people will be reluctant to sell them to a buyer without a FAL due to pressure from the police. As other have suggested the Crosman 2240 CO2 pistol could be a good place to start and there are ways to turn them into a PCP via a hipac or regged bottle etc. 

Do you have the means (tank or pump) to fill a PCP? Are you not able to get a FAL or is the extra cost putting you off?
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Oh, I have no idea about converting/modifications possible to the 2240 CO2 pistol.

I would just be using a pump not tank if I got a pistol. 

Had a big talk to the very helpful and friendly lady at Magair. Pretty much at this point second is my only option for a PCP pistol. That being said if I cannot find one around NZ on the forums or TradeMe I might have to settle for a high quality springer I'm thinking.

AS for FAL, I could get it, but yes, costs add up, gun safe requirements are very strict and I cannot go bolting one down at this point, all for a PCP pistol. Not that desperate for one :)







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What do you want to shoot, use it for?
There's a couple of nice single stroke pneumatic pistols on trade me at the moment.
Weihrauch or Air Arms are the Springer to go for.
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Feathers, plinking around the property. Sounds silly, but I just want one because I know FX and Benjamin pistols are very good quality and just like all my other toys I own that I can if possible get the best quality for money possible over just junk without sounding like a twat. 

I have seen the ones on TradeMe, but wanting something more powerful that I can purchase, but its in a bit of a grey area second hand from what I've learnt talking to Magair. FX Ranchero or a Benjamin Marauder is what I'm after. 


I got myself a Zoraki .22 Ultra a few months ago and have enjoyed that and feel like I need to upgrade now, but have found myself needing to learn about the reasoning behind the restrictions which I have now learnt so may have to settle for either a good springer or get a FAL. Just seems like a huge amount of work for one PCP pistol personally,.

AA or Weihrauch rifles are what I'm leaning towards now until a pistol pops up if that happens.
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So thezoraki fills the ssp slot.
I have a HW97k along with pcp rifles, and it is just as accurate and satisfying to shoot. So if you want accurate, fun, something for the odd rabbit,or pest I would recommend one.
Otherwise just keep your eyes peeled for one I guess.

If you decide you want a pcp rifle, I have a .22 cyclone for sale. With the right silencer and on low power it's so quiet you really only hear the pellet hit.
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Indeed, it fills the slot, but was just more intrigued by the whole pistols side of things even though it is not as practical as a rifle. 


Between those two air rifle manufactures does it just come down to personal preference? 
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I know this is an old thread, just wanted to post here to confirm the info on this site and other nz forums that a pcp pistol doesn't require a FAL to own one just to purchase new from Youngs because of the revised import laws.

Where does a converted bolt action co2 pistol (crosman) sit legally if it's modified to run on 1000-1200psi compressed air for better shot consistency target shooting?
Reading the arms act there is no mention to pcp pistol being a specially dangerous airgun just the pcp air rifle that by legal definition is over 762mm with a shoulder stock, any info would be appeicated since there's no local arms officer in my town to ask..
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