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Posted: 24 Aug 2024 at 12:48pm

Get a live trap and throw a rabbit in. If they are that use to stealing your rabbits they will go in. Hang the rest above it.

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Posted: 24 Aug 2024 at 3:15pm

Regarding wild cats Pete, I used to go hunting pheasants in the forests near Napier during the season.

I flushed so many wild cats during the first two years over there, I put my shotgun away and took a silenced Ruger M77 .223 rifle instead on my third year. It's 1-in-9 twist barrel allowed me to shoot 68gr Hornady Match rounds extremely accurately out to 800yds.

That season, we shot 61 cats (!) in one week in various forests over there!!!! And that was without NV gear! We just piled up rabbits and possums in various spots and snipered 'em from 100-200yds - great fun! Big smile

But I reckon, if we'd had NV gear, our total would have been 100+!

I've never seen so many wild cats in all my life. I guess the warmer drier weather over there - and lots of tucker (Quail, Pheasants, Rabbits, etc) - allowed them to breed successfully?

Keep knocking 'em down mate! They're a menace....

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Posted: 24 Aug 2024 at 4:13pm

Wow Myson, that’s a lot of cats, good work!

The problem I have is that I’m always on other peoples property when I’m out culling rabbits at night.
And the very vast majority of my clients don’t want cats shot on their properties, either because they have cats them selves, or because they are worried about the neighbours cats… 🤔

I firmly believe that every rule that applies to owning a dog in NZ should also apply to owning a cat, which includes licensing it, wearing a collar and a bell, and containing it with in your own property.

Walk quietly, but carry a big stick.

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Posted: 25 Aug 2024 at 6:57am

Totally agree Pete! Smile

Yeah - you're in a tricky situation, being on others' property and probably not too far from neighbours or town?

I've shot two more on local farms this year with my beloved S510. All in the late evening as they start their nightly prowl.

It's time to start wall-mounting their heads, methinks?!!!! Wink

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Posted: 14 Sep 2024 at 2:38pm

Some interesting results comming out of this sub 16FPE comparison.

Not just from the terminal ballistics side, but from other things I’ve been noticing like the correlation of pellet velocity’s and rabbit reaction times to the shot…
From watching many video replays of shots, it seems past a certain distance a faster pellet is preferable, slower pellets give the rabbit the opportunity to hear the shot and react before the pellet gets there!!!

Obviously other factors like ambient noise and wind direction will influence it, but on the still, quiet nights when I do most of my culling I’ve decided that regardless of projectile caliber or weight, if I’m shooting out past 40yards I want my muzzle velocity higher than 700fps.

Walk quietly, but carry a big stick.

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kruzaroad Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 02 Jul 2022 Location: Hastings 4 now Status: Offline Posts: 2282	Post Options Post Reply Quote kruzaroad Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 24 Aug 2024 at 12:48pm
	Get a live trap and throw a rabbit in. If they are that use to stealing your rabbits they will go in. Hang the rest above it.

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	Regarding wild cats Pete, I used to go hunting pheasants in the forests near Napier during the season. I flushed so many wild cats during the first two years over there, I put my shotgun away and took a silenced Ruger M77 .223 rifle instead on my third year. It's 1-in-9 twist barrel allowed me to shoot 68gr Hornady Match rounds extremely accurately out to 800yds. That season, we shot 61 cats (!) in one week in various forests over there!!!! And that was without NV gear! We just piled up rabbits and possums in various spots and snipered 'em from 100-200yds - great fun! But I reckon, if we'd had NV gear, our total would have been 100+! I've never seen so many wild cats in all my life. I guess the warmer drier weather over there - and lots of tucker (Quail, Pheasants, Rabbits, etc) - allowed them to breed successfully? Keep knocking 'em down mate! They're a menace....
	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq7jVyBfFqE Air Arms S510 US .22 Air Arms S410 .22 Weihrauch HW97KT .177 Weihrauch HW95 .177

RangerPete Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 18 Apr 2023 Location: Cambridge. Status: Offline Posts: 884	Post Options Post Reply Quote RangerPete Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 24 Aug 2024 at 4:13pm
	Wow Myson, that’s a lot of cats, good work! The problem I have is that I’m always on other peoples property when I’m out culling rabbits at night. And the very vast majority of my clients don’t want cats shot on their properties, either because they have cats them selves, or because they are worried about the neighbours cats… 🤔 I firmly believe that every rule that applies to owning a dog in NZ should also apply to owning a cat, which includes licensing it, wearing a collar and a bell, and containing it with in your own property.
	Walk quietly, but carry a big stick.

Myson Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 06 Mar 2016 Location: Feilding Status: Offline Posts: 182	Post Options Post Reply Quote Myson Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 Aug 2024 at 6:57am
	Totally agree Pete! Yeah - you're in a tricky situation, being on others' property and probably not too far from neighbours or town? I've shot two more on local farms this year with my beloved S510. All in the late evening as they start their nightly prowl. It's time to start wall-mounting their heads, methinks?!!!!
	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq7jVyBfFqE Air Arms S510 US .22 Air Arms S410 .22 Weihrauch HW97KT .177 Weihrauch HW95 .177

RangerPete Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 18 Apr 2023 Location: Cambridge. Status: Offline Posts: 884	Post Options Post Reply Quote RangerPete Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 Sep 2024 at 2:38pm
	Some interesting results comming out of this sub 16FPE comparison. Not just from the terminal ballistics side, but from other things I’ve been noticing like the correlation of pellet velocity’s and rabbit reaction times to the shot… From watching many video replays of shots, it seems past a certain distance a faster pellet is preferable, slower pellets give the rabbit the opportunity to hear the shot and react before the pellet gets there!!! Obviously other factors like ambient noise and wind direction will influence it, but on the still, quiet nights when I do most of my culling I’ve decided that regardless of projectile caliber or weight, if I’m shooting out past 40yards I want my muzzle velocity higher than 700fps.
	Walk quietly, but carry a big stick.