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Ticks ![]() Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Feb 2025 Location: Southland nz Status: Offline Posts: 19 |
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I totally agree it was really lack of experience on my behalf that lead me to trying a mag first rather than a single shot it does surprise me quite a bit just how different springers are to powder guns but the more I reasuch ask questions and study up on how to get the best results from a Springer and practice the better the results I will achieve that is why I joined this page was to learn off others that are more experience than I am
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kruzaroad ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 Jul 2022 Location: Hastings 4 now Status: Offline Posts: 2470 |
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I had a gamo with a ten shot mag and it was damaging the pellets.
Took it off. Think its a lot to do with barrel movement too. If your breaking a barrel and shutting it all the time vibration is going to be affecting it at some stage. Pcp is much better set up for mag. |
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That's a good idea I'll do that and I will practice what you have suggested that's why I got the mag fire for a start thought it would be good being "semi auto" but the mag was crap I broke 2 of them and it was not as easy as just a straight re cocking of the springer either it didn't always load the pallet properly as the obvious cheap plastic construction of the mag didn't behave the same way twice sometimes it would not put the pallet in properly and I had a few pallet half load and get squashed when I closed the barrel having a single shot springer is I guess similar to a bolt action rifle over a semi auto I could use my bolt action rifles on the move and without it leaving my shoulder position and was only a fraction slower than a semi auto
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kruzaroad ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 Jul 2022 Location: Hastings 4 now Status: Offline Posts: 2470 |
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![]() This single layer, standerd h&n tin. It will take 2 layers. The deeper 500 tins will take 3 layers. The cut out is for getting your finger in as they are pain to get out otherwise. |
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kruzaroad ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 Jul 2022 Location: Hastings 4 now Status: Offline Posts: 2470 |
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Your going to get wounding shots.
With such light projectiles and slow speeds it doesnt take much to move that pellet be it trigger pull,wind picks up, animal starts to move. You dont have impact for shock to play a vital role if the poi is affected. Though having said that its more of exception if you know your gun. Look at ways of having a second pellet on hand, be it a stick on pellet holder,an easy accessable pocket with a couple of loose pellets. I use a bit of camp sleeping mat cut to fit the tin and melt holes in it with a soldiering iron. About 10 to 15 pellets for the reload tin so i can leave the lid off in my pocket and just reach in and pull one out. seems to hold them in fine. Then a larger tin multi layered, done the same but closer together to refill the reload tin. Stops pellets being damaged and there is no sound of pellets moving. Carry about hundred pellets this way. Practice reloading on the move as well. I can cover 30m while reloading a break barrel, less with the under lever as have to stop to get pellet in. It gets you on in a better position for follow up shot if critter is down but not dead, or if its moving keeps you on it. It needs to be practiced though or you'll damage the pellet trying to get it in. |
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Ticks ![]() Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Feb 2025 Location: Southland nz Status: Offline Posts: 19 |
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Yeah I have seen them and I agree with you on the power thing shot placement is the key for anyone who wants to be human in the kill of any animal I witnessed a chick take 2 pigs down with a.22 both were single kill shots and I would rate pigs as probably the toughest animal to take down before I really start targeting rabbits etc with a Springer I will be getting my technique set and the springer run in properly to make sure I am not going to miss the kill shot and only wound don't get me wrong I have done many culls of rabbit before but that was always with a shotty so there was never any wounded rabbits the either died straight away or I have to admit the odd miss but I blame the guy driving the ute rather than me missing lol
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kruzaroad ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 Jul 2022 Location: Hastings 4 now Status: Offline Posts: 2470 |
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You dont need it at that sort of power. Air guns will do you well if your an accuracy nut. Thats what they are about. It dont have anywhere near that fps and drop rabbits quite happily. My biggest surprise was that 14.66gr when run over the chrono and thru chair gun out preformed the 16gr i switched to for fpe and drop. 18gr blitzed both.
Guess the 16gr added enough weight to affect fps but not enough to to improve the fpe to any great degree. Was bit of an eye opener. Theres pics on the site of a goat shot with a springer and couple of wallaby shot with air rifle as well. |
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Ticks ![]() Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Feb 2025 Location: Southland nz Status: Offline Posts: 19 |
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Thank you I'll look into that atm I can only get to 25 yards safely when I get to take some longer shots I will measure the drop etc to work that out I would be surprised if it is close to the 950fps that they claim but I am not overly worried with the fps I would take accuracy over higher fps any day but I am pretty sure that it's got plenty enough of a whack to knock a rabbit over from what I have seen so far anyway but of course shot placement is really the key I took a goat down at 350mtrs a few years ago with my 7mm and it died so quickly it still had the grass in it's mouth that it was eating I hit it's spine just behind the front shoulder that was the cleanest kill I have achieved of anything I have shot but in saying that every animal I have shot with a rifle has always gone down with 1 shot
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kruzaroad ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 Jul 2022 Location: Hastings 4 now Status: Offline Posts: 2470 |
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There are ph apps like strelock pro that if you put your info in correctly can give you a pretty good fps from pellet drop over two set points if your looking for an alternative to a chrono.
But a chrono is recommended for accurate measurements. |
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2 different cans under the same condition
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