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    Posted: 17 hours 55 minutes ago at 12:05pm
Great thread with some rare data re damaged pellets.

Best of luck with the shooting comp and I'll look forward to more testing of damaged pellets re POI... 

thank you for your efforts!
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Thanks Kruza, it'll be a lot of fun regardless of the results Thumbs Up

I might grab that off you Mark, it's not much good for anything else so I wouldn't feel bad about taking a welder to it....
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Best of shooting to you for the pistol comp.
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Before and after is quite extraordinary.
Crosman barrel = so useful universal tool.
I have a 6 inch scrap cut-off if wanting to make a permanent setup.
Nicely done.
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Just 10m in my shed.  The pistol will be a more realistic test when I get to it.  We have a red dot pistol trophy shoot this weekend so I'd rather not swap it out until that is over.
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What distance ?
Nice grouping
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OK, some preliminary test results at 10m using my Dreamline set to low power to save me swapping pistol scopes at this stage.  I normally shoot 18.13gr JSBs with this rifle so it may not be quite so receptive to the 13.43gr pellets tested.

Far from definitive, but generally as I would have expected.  Ten rough pellets and ten good ones, five into each target.  I will try again using a pistol and report back in due course.

Damaged skirts shown below.








Edited by KiwiTR6 - 21 Nov 2024 at 7:35pm
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I'd be keen to see if there's a difference in depth of rifling marks in the head of the pellet.
Could be that in that millisecond that it takes the damaged part of the skirt to flare, that the undamaged part of the skirt has started to lift the head on the damaged side into the rifling, which then corrects as the pressure equalises going down the barrel.
Or the other way around, the air passing the gap and expanding pushes the head down in to the rifling.
Just a thought mind, have no real data or evidence to back this train of thought up.
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A great idea!

From my very limited experience...

I thought, up until recently, variance in pellet weight was the cause of my 'flyers'.  I'm no longer of that opinion.

I've noticed that the first shot from a fresh magazine (after changing mags mid shoot) is almost always astray, which indicates to me that the skirt is damaged when the first pellet is pushed home by the probe as it also precisely aligns the mag.  For this reason I have now resorted to single shot loading of all of my target guns.

So, I am skeptical that out of round skirts get blown true and come right but the way to find out is to test as you suggest.  I'll need to replace the red dot with a scope to confirm or otherwise but should hopefully have a definitive answer for you within the next day or so.
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Cant be wasting too many pellets in this economy, nice one. 

While you have a bunch of bad ones, id be keen to see if the rumours are true that JSB thin skirts and soft lead will blow out into the rifling - minor skirt damage may be blown out into the rifling to engage well and shoot accurate..

shoot a bunch of damaged ones then good ones and check grouping...
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