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RangerPete
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Posted: 30 Sep 2024 at 4:05pm |
Billbob, I’m not so sure about that story. The additives in pellets are usually very small amounts of tin and or antimony.
If I had to choose I’d probably take Tin over lead, but I guess neither is the best option. One advantage of an air rifle over a shotgun is one largish pellet vs many small or even tiny shots. Much easier to find and pick out, or spit out 😂 I’ve spoken to a vet about this with regards to dogs or cats ingesting a pellet in a carcass, and the vet reccons: 1- the pellet will pass through the animal and come out with the poo in a few hours, so not a problem. 2- if it’s only one or two pellets once in a while, no problem, if it’s multiple a day, every day that might lead to problems. The reason they have banned lead shot from water fowl hunting is quite different, and once you understand how a birds digestive tract works you can understand why lead has been banned. Birds don’t have teeth to chew and break down food like we do. They swallow food whole. It can be stored temperariy in a crop, and/or then moves to the gizzard where muscular action grinds it down. Birds often swallow small stones which stay in the gizzard and assist with grinding the food before it passes further into the Intestines to get digested. The way Ducks and waterfowl feed is on aquatic vegetation and algae, if there is small lead shot on or in the vegetation the ducks will ingest it, it will then sit in the gizzard and help grind food, but will also slowly get ground down so the duck is ultimately eating /digesting tiny particles of ground up lead shot over a long term. As apposed to a dog who eats a rabbit with a pellet in it, swallowes one large chunk of lead pellet, and will poop it out 6 hours later. |
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kruzaroad
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I'd just with don't eat metal. It's not good for you.
Sure the odd shot passes through quickly |
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Billbobnz
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I read once that it's very likely you will get Leander poisoning from air rifles pellets due to the additives they use to make the lead harder for use in air rifles and other projectiles. The lead they use in roofs and lead windows are a purer form of lead and therefore softer and breaks down faster if digested.
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JasonEdward
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Pauly, you don't know what you're missing mate...love those bunnies.
Man this lead poisoning business is getting PC and out of control I reckon. I must have eaten a lot of no. 8 Quail shot in my time, let alone the no. 5 duck and pheasant shot. Maybe I should be dead...I can understand keeping it out of waterways because it will stay there but the odd bit of shot or pellet never killed anyone. I think. Surely all the lead on roofs keeping rain out that went straight into the house water tank back in the day didn't kill anyone? |
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RangerPete
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Pauly... rabbit is home grown, free range, antibiotic free, just about as healthy as you can get.
Same with hare and possum. Ive been skinning and dissecting a lot of rabbits for this sub 16 comparison video, its a lot of work, especially caping the heads to see what the head shots do. PS: dogs eat rabbit skin, and fur they've been doing it for as long as they've been eating rabbits, which is about the last 10 million years! |
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kruzaroad
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Head shot only?
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nunga
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You have to be careful with that. A lot of places will not take dead carcasses if they have been shot due to lead been still there. I looked into that a couple of years ago with the place up the road and thats what they told me
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kruzaroad
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sh*t Pauly find a place that has owls an hawks, falcons, recovery. They might be into the meat. Even the zoo?
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Pauly5
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A friend of mine tried Pukeko. And I watched a programe where they cooked it. Very gamey was what my mate said.
You can get permits from Fish and game to shoot them if they are a pest. I've shot a few for clients. Even tried seeing if the local marae wanted the feathers, but struggled to find anyone. Personally I can't get my head around eating what i'm shooting. I've started skinning rabbits, and they go to dog food. Would love to try tanning a hide.
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JasonEdward
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A thread on eating our quarry and recipes etc sounds like a good idea.
I've never shot Pukeko for the pot only culled a few. I was put off by the old joke that you cook Pooks with a Maori adze head and boil it for three days and three nights. And then eat the adze head. Maybe I should try them, but technically it takes a game bird licence and the 12 gauge I think. Are they still listed game birds? I've not shot a bird season for a few decades and the licence is getting pretty dear unless you're doing a lot of bird hunting - which requires a dog. Yeah I'll happily eat pigeons but the two Doves I nailed were so tiny under their feathers with a very skinny breast - you'd need 4 for a feed for one. And so tasteless I wouldn't bother again. I love rabbit and I'm sure people who don't know better would swear it was chicken. I usually cook smaller birds like me Mum cooked quail - skin and clean them and stuff them and wrap a rasher of bacon around each bird. Then cook them long and slow with lots of basting so they don't dry out. The butter rich moist stuffing helps too... I do the same with rabbit back legs. The tiny back steaks are good for stewing but you need a few of them. |
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