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RangerPete
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Topic: Weirauch HW80K vintage???Posted: 01 Oct 2024 at 10:05am |
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Billbob, I’m not so sure about that story. The additives in pellets are usually very small amounts of tin and or antimony.
If I had to choose I’d probably take Tin over lead, but I guess neither is the best option. One advantage of an air rifle over a shotgun is one largish pellet vs many small or even tiny shots. Much easier to find and pick out, or spit out 😂 I’ve spoken to a vet about this with regards to dogs or cats ingesting a pellet in a carcass, and the vet reccons: 1- the pellet will pass through the animal and come out with the poo in a few hours, so not a problem. 2- if it’s only one or two pellets once in a while, no problem, if it’s multiple a day, every day that might lead to problems. The reason they have banned lead shot from water fowl hunting is quite different, and once you understand how a birds digestive tract works you can understand why lead has been banned. Birds don’t have teeth to chew and break down food like we do. They swallow food whole. It can be stored temperariy in a crop, and/or then moves to the gizzard where muscular action grinds it down. Birds often swallow small stones which stay in the gizzard and assist with grinding the food before it passes further into the Intestines to get digested. The way Ducks and waterfowl feed is on aquatic vegetation and algae, if there is small lead shot on or in the vegetation the ducks will ingest it, it will then sit in the gizzard and help grind food, but will also slowly get ground down so the duck is ultimately eating /digesting tiny particles of ground up lead shot over a long term. As apposed to a dog who eats a rabbit with a pellet in it, swallowes one large chunk of lead pellet, and will poop it out 6 hours later. |
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Posted: 01 Oct 2024 at 8:50am |
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I'd just with don't eat metal. It's not good for you.
Sure the odd shot passes through quickly |
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Posted: 01 Oct 2024 at 8:11am |
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I read once that it's very likely you will get Leander poisoning from air rifles pellets due to the additives they use to make the lead harder for use in air rifles and other projectiles. The lead they use in roofs and lead windows are a purer form of lead and therefore softer and breaks down faster if digested.
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Posted: 30 Sep 2024 at 1:28pm |
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Pauly, you don't know what you're missing mate...love those bunnies.
Man this lead poisoning business is getting PC and out of control I reckon. I must have eaten a lot of no. 8 Quail shot in my time, let alone the no. 5 duck and pheasant shot. Maybe I should be dead...I can understand keeping it out of waterways because it will stay there but the odd bit of shot or pellet never killed anyone. I think. Surely all the lead on roofs keeping rain out that went straight into the house water tank back in the day didn't kill anyone?
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Posted: 30 Sep 2024 at 8:06am |
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Pauly... rabbit is home grown, free range, antibiotic free, just about as healthy as you can get.
Same with hare and possum. Ive been skinning and dissecting a lot of rabbits for this sub 16 comparison video, its a lot of work, especially caping the heads to see what the head shots do. PS: dogs eat rabbit skin, and fur they've been doing it for as long as they've been eating rabbits, which is about the last 10 million years!
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Posted: 30 Sep 2024 at 6:41am |
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Head shot only?
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Posted: 30 Sep 2024 at 5:24am |
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You have to be careful with that. A lot of places will not take dead carcasses if they have been shot due to lead been still there. I looked into that a couple of years ago with the place up the road and thats what they told me
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Posted: 30 Sep 2024 at 4:37am |
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sh*t Pauly find a place that has owls an hawks, falcons, recovery. They might be into the meat. Even the zoo?
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Posted: 30 Sep 2024 at 4:20am |
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A friend of mine tried Pukeko. And I watched a programe where they cooked it. Very gamey was what my mate said.
You can get permits from Fish and game to shoot them if they are a pest. I've shot a few for clients. Even tried seeing if the local marae wanted the feathers, but struggled to find anyone. Personally I can't get my head around eating what i'm shooting. I've started skinning rabbits, and they go to dog food. Would love to try tanning a hide.
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Posted: 29 Sep 2024 at 4:57am |
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A thread on eating our quarry and recipes etc sounds like a good idea.
I've never shot Pukeko for the pot only culled a few. I was put off by the old joke that you cook Pooks with a Maori adze head and boil it for three days and three nights. And then eat the adze head. Maybe I should try them, but technically it takes a game bird licence and the 12 gauge I think. Are they still listed game birds? I've not shot a bird season for a few decades and the licence is getting pretty dear unless you're doing a lot of bird hunting - which requires a dog. Yeah I'll happily eat pigeons but the two Doves I nailed were so tiny under their feathers with a very skinny breast - you'd need 4 for a feed for one. And so tasteless I wouldn't bother again. I love rabbit and I'm sure people who don't know better would swear it was chicken. I usually cook smaller birds like me Mum cooked quail - skin and clean them and stuff them and wrap a rasher of bacon around each bird. Then cook them long and slow with lots of basting so they don't dry out. The butter rich moist stuffing helps too... I do the same with rabbit back legs. The tiny back steaks are good for stewing but you need a few of them. |
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Posted: 29 Sep 2024 at 4:50am |
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I'd go duck sux (never liked it) pidgeon is delish, quail very white, clean meat, pheasant the top. Rabbit is ahh, hare really is a good meat.
Pukeko in a crock pot for about 5 hours sorts the meat, I wouldn't drop it as a food source, but never use it as one. |
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Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 7:31am |
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Duck is good. Pigeon is not bad either, just a pity there is so little meat on the breasts for the amount of work you need to put in to get it.
Whats your take on pukeos? I only tried it for the first time a few months ago, but I was really impressed with it and would happily eat it regularly if they were not protected with a closed season. Rabbit is good, and there is no shortage of rabbit around here. I could supply my family with an endless supply of fresh rabbit meat, but after my 12th experimental rabbit dish I was banned from bringing any more rabbit into the house... Hare is flippen delicious! I came up with a Hare and Coke recipe in the slow cooker, served with some mash... excellent! We should ask Nunga to start a "Recipes" section where people can post their "Game and Pest Recipes"
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Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 4:17am |
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NB Pigeons aren't bad but Doves have so little meat and so little flavour I don't bother any more except they seem to be breeding up and displacing some native birds around here so i night have to start nailing the pests. Maybe my cat will eat them.
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Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 4:15am |
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The Goddess of the Hunt Mod 52.
Doesn't look as though it's had much use - or been treated well apart from abuse the fool trying to fold up the lever without releasing the anti-amputation rachet. That turned an auction bargain into a OK buy but that's sight unseen auctions for ya. As an aside, I ended up with 3 very old hammer shotguns when I only wanted one - made two what i thought were silly low bids on two others and bingo, 2 more for total $120. Having said that, while I love those old hammer guns I think the Cops get angry if you display them which was my plan; a hammer gun over my Rei Hamon Huia print as it was guns exactly like these, along with wealthy dead bird collectors, that resulted in the extinction of the huias. Oh, and apparently they were damn tasty as well, which may have not have helped... I'm a bit of a fan of eating wild birds I guess from lots of game bird shooting with the Old Man and would love to do some swaps for some Californian quail or roosters. Would love to try a fat Kereru but not a good idea but I really enjoyed Weka in the Chathams where they are fair game in pest numbers. Weka taste a lot like Paradise Duck - Mmmmmmm. Frankly I'd also be keen on a few bunnies - the numbers you experts shoot mean a freezer full of back steaks and back legs would do me...many years ago when dinging the bonnets of MPI Patrol vehicles by Wellington bunny shooting sitting on the bonnet at night we ate a lot of rabbit and I really like it. My Nurse flatmates didn't like the idea of eating Watership Downs stars but once those legs were casseroled up with a slice of bacon around each one them they into them like a flock of seagulls out side Fish & Chip shop. |
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