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We use two standard club targets for inside and outdoors:
5 diagram 80mm roundels and 10 diagram 50mm roundels and both have a 6mm bull.
We normally shoot 20 shots a card 

Pictured is my best target card from a 50 metre club shoot early this month.
My worst later in the day was 68mm OD however I was pleased they were all scoring shots.

Rifle: .22 Sig Sauer ASP20 break barrel, SportsMatch Mount, Zero Tech Scope, JSB Exact 14.35 grain.

This ASP20 rifle is under the forums reviews where Kruza sent me back to do better some time ago so I did. The rifle is standard from the factory with several thousand pellets fired.

I am often the only springer shooter and thoroughly enjoy the challenge up against our very capable PCP users who will regularly shoot 12.5mm OD or less all inside the 8 ring. On this day the best individual diagram score was 39/40 so I have plenty to aspire to.

4 shot group 19.6mm OD.
Conditions were near perfect.
Position: bench rest
Scope magnification x18
Rifle gas piston, 19.79 ft/lb
Distance 50 metres
First diagram of the day.
Overall Target diameter 80mm



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Originally posted by Declan Declan wrote:

I hear about people shooting pellet on pellet over some longish distances. And shooting a pcp I believe marksmen can achieve that sort of accuracy.
Me? Well there’s no way I can achieve that degree of accuracy shooting a springer.
Today I shot over 50m in a 10kmh left to right variable breeze. I used my FWB Sport using .177 JSB Express pellets with a 3” target.
I’ve attached a couple of photos of my day’s end 7 shot group.
For me that’s about as good as I can achieve outdoors over that sort of distance. But I’m sure others could do a lot better. Cheers. Declan




Love to see some pics of the rifle too - ive not had a fwb sport but definitely on "the list"
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Hi Declan,

Assuming you're using the Artillery Hold on a rest, using Follow Thro', etc.. and assuming you've determined that that pellet is the best for your barrel (?), then I'd say a variable wind of that strength at 55yds is the main culprit because:
  • That pellet is light (7.8gr)
  • A new FWB .177 rifle has an MV of about 850fps
How does the FWB perform on a windless day at that range usually?

For comparison, my Weihrauch HW95 .177 breakbarrel - using 8.4gr AA Diabolo Field at 920fps - would only just improve on your group with that sort of wind at 55yds. On a still day, a 5-shot group would usually be within 20-23 mm at 55yds.

Hope that makes sense?

Have you tried different Head sizes too? I believe your pellet is mainly 4.50mm? You might like to review the following article?:

Let us know how you get along with your trials - thanks. Smile
Maybe a slightly heavier pellet would perform better?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq7jVyBfFqE
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The pellets are unsorted straight out of the can. Good tip. Thanks.
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Looking at that spread first thing i would looking at is pellets. (assuming you have your hold sorted and rifle us accurate.)
Thats the sort of spread that is, looks like Flyers and not pulled shots.
How accurate is it at 20-30m?
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I hear about people shooting pellet on pellet over some longish distances. And shooting a pcp I believe marksmen can achieve that sort of accuracy.
Me? Well there’s no way I can achieve that degree of accuracy shooting a springer.
Today I shot over 50m in a 10kmh left to right variable breeze. I used my FWB Sport using .177 JSB Express pellets with a 3” target.
I’ve attached a couple of photos of my day’s end 7 shot group.
For me that’s about as good as I can achieve outdoors over that sort of distance. But I’m sure others could do a lot better. Cheers. Declan
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