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kruzaroad
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Not the owners just thier guns
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FPM
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Compared with other western and developed countries New Zealand is fairly easy on gun control. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overview_of_gun_laws_by_nation Since taking up shooting and mixing in these circles I have quickly learned to take a lot of what is said with a grain of salt. The Arms Officer I got was actually quite a helpful bloke. Between myself and referees I think there were 4 AO's involved and noone said anything negative about their interviews. But one would think by listening to the gossip the Police are out to get LFAO's. ACT used to be a libertarian party but that has gone by the wayside. Yes, they have some policies I agree with but ultimately they will just be supporting National. I think 50% chance air rifles will end up being licensed. Because of the actions of a few d*heads.
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dvlnme
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gun laws are allways bout politics,this last lot we are inflicted with was never about what government and police told the public it was,it was never about making the country saffer as they told the public it was,and that lie has exploded in their faces since,as not a day or two goes buy now there isnt a shooting by some idiot or crim with an illegal gun,bassically because idiots and crims dont obey any laws in the first place a very simple fact politions and police just never seem to be able to grasp,99% of all gun crime isnt and never has been commited by legal licensed gun owners ,just another true the powers that be will never admit,because they cant stop criminal activty and never will either,so its easier to pick on licensed gun owners because they can get at them and boast bout it on the media making it look like they are actually doing something bout crime when in fact thet are doing nothing at all bout crime with guns illegally held by crims its all about a feel good political agenda that looks good in the media yet does nothing to improve public saftey and bringing new stricter gun laws that only affect the law abiding wont change a thing because its not and never has been the law abiding that are the problem we now have with criminal misuse of illegally held guns that is not going to go away,we now have an essentually armed police force,but that hasnt changed or improved anything either has it,as all it means is our police now shoot more people than the whole of aussie but this hasnt stopped criminal misuse of firearms either has it??all arming our police has done is to make them parniod bout guns evan more.
as for the politics of who to vote for on this issuse,i agree with a pevious post that there are more important things to cast a vote for than just the gun issuse,ACT will never have the power to change gun laws and the rest wont do either,they are all going to come after licenced legal gun owners no matter what simpliy because its political expediant to doso,as it makes politions look good on tv which is all bout getting votes nothing else,been while since posted anything but this one deserves a reply. cheers mike
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kruzaroad
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And a very fine one at that, which requires a lot of skill and knowledge and definitely one under threat with current proposed laws. That I have no dought about at all. Nor that laws are not well thought out or benificial to shooters or our way of life at all.
I'm not in disagreement with that at all. |
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KiwiTR6
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But target shooting is π
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kruzaroad
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I don't consider killing pest animals a sport. π
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Myson
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Yep!
A "small say" when you're the King Maker party (with National?) goes a long way Kruza! If you do nothing, you'll get nothing! Our sport is under significant threat.... and here is a party (like 'em or not) that will save our sport. Let the debate expand and grow! I've said my bit....
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kruzaroad
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So what your proposing is voting for party that probly won't get run the country but may have a small say.
You seem to be promoting the idea that act can repeal laws that will take a vote through government to pass and most likely not passed as majority of the government will not vote for it, Or will do deals for other policies that they promote that are more acceptable to other parties that hold governance with act. You are also promoting that we vote for a party based on this one subject. There are a lot more serious issues, that have lead to the missus of guns, that affect social and economic delvolpment in this country. Though I don't like what is happening with gun laws I think voting for how a country is run based on it's gun laws isn't the best option. Even if its something I total enjoy and hate the way it is being portrayed and the idiotic/knee jerk reaction rules being formed around it, that punish us as gun users for no good reason. But that's my view and will be the only thing that has to do with politics I'll put up on this site. |
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Billbobnz
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Yep if you look over across the ditch to Australia, can't have air rifles, air soft without FAL and I reckon that's what may happen here but praying it doesn't.
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RangerPete
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I canβt comment much on the politics side, still too new to NZ to be able to vote, but I can tell you your firearms laws here in NZ are way less restrictive then in many other countries around the world, which is a freedom and a right you should defiantly stand up for and protect!
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