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CuteRabbit
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Posted: 05 Feb 2023 at 11:15am |
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Thanks. Doing a lot adjustment and finally find out that the scope is leaning toward right becasue the srews on each mount side are not equally tightened... So the former sight-in work won't fix this problem totally. Re do it and will try flat nose and round nose tomorrow if not rainning.
Flat nose- guncity Round nose- Winchester (made in Spain so is good?) ![]() Will try: rest-sandbag normoal standing an alternative pose of artillery hold (fold left arm, use the elbow to hold the gun, left hand grabing right wrist rather than use left hand to hold it)
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kruzaroad
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Posted: 05 Feb 2023 at 7:33am |
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Paper tear may also be the target not held firm against the backing board.
Looks like from top pic that it's only held on by couple of pegs and is paper. |
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Billbobnz
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Posted: 05 Feb 2023 at 7:30am |
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Buy a H&N sample pack of pellets. And see high quality flat nose (go to young's air guns on dominion road for these)
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Posted: 05 Feb 2023 at 7:21am |
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This is how to read your shots
Blue is your group, red are what we call fliers (generally caused by a damaged pellet) or a poor shot or form. The purple arrows point to the paper tear I was talking about earlier and most likely caused by a off balance pellet. ![]() Generally with myself. If I do a poor shot it's because I've flinched or closed my eyes when I've taken the shot. Edited by Billbobnz - 05 Feb 2023 at 7:25am |
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Posted: 05 Feb 2023 at 7:16am |
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Cuterabbit, you should try a few different pellets.
Get flat nose (which I think you already have) and domed/diablo pellets. Looking at the target you have shot and looking at the paper tears the pellets may be tumbling or spiralling when they hit. Therefore there isn't a clean punch through the paper. (Others may be able to comment on this) Once you have a selection of pellets. Do 5 shot of each pellet on their own target and look for grouping and how clean the holes. |
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kruzaroad
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Posted: 05 Feb 2023 at 6:40am |
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Do you have a starp across the back of the rifle? Do you use the front strap?
Have you tried differnt pellets? What pellets are you using? How big are the groups? Definitely a lot better than the last target. |
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CuteRabbit
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Posted: 05 Feb 2023 at 5:44am |
![]() Set up table and chair, re-sight in... start raining... 6shots group after sight in, with gun-rest shell on table. ![]() Recoil is heavy, I can feel the shell moving and table shaking... Edited by CuteRabbit - 05 Feb 2023 at 5:46am |
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Posted: 03 Feb 2023 at 5:27pm |
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Posted: 03 Feb 2023 at 5:26pm |
![]() ![]() Cool. and ppl means people?
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Posted: 03 Feb 2023 at 4:57pm |
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Before you do, be aware that a lot of ppl don't think you should use cleaning rods in air rifles and pull throughs are thier choice.
Some ppl say you don't clean an air rifle barrel till it's accuracy goes. After you clean it will will need to fire a 20 odd shots through it to relead the barrel (that's how many I do) You can look up cleaning air rifle barrels on Web. Don't just read one, you need to read a few as there are a few differnt reasons why people think differnt things. I'll be interested to see what the twist rate is on your rifle. Check it's not on barrel, but I think that's more cartridge rifles. Also the pellets out of air rifles are can fly strait without rifling thier shape is very stable, however the twist helps to over come the air making the pellet unstable as it pushes past as it leaves the barrel. Has other advantages in flight too. If your rifle has strait rifling by some wierd chance I'd think about changing barrels. Its something for ball shot which is a totally differnt dynamic for flight. |
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Posted: 03 Feb 2023 at 4:26pm |
![]() ![]() Thanks, that is a brilliant idea. By the way, I haven't clean my guns since I got them. Should buy a clean set someday.
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Posted: 03 Feb 2023 at 3:27pm |
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I've also been looking at strait rifling it's a shotgun thing. Also used in muzzle loaders that are shooting ball. Stops uneven pressure in on ball in muzzle loader and supposedly tightens shot out of a shot gun.
It is not a rifle thing.Good to see you looking up stuff cuterabbit. Youll need to be more specific in your searches. Wikipedia is OK but bit general. |
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Posted: 03 Feb 2023 at 3:19pm |
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Modern pellet rifles all have rifled barrels.
They don’t have straight lines, as they need to make the pellet twist. So you’ll find either angle / twist rifling or smooth bore. Smooth bore likely only guns like Daisy Red Rider BB gun |
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Posted: 03 Feb 2023 at 1:58pm |
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Posted: 03 Feb 2023 at 1:54pm |
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I'll see if I can find a video on Web 4 you.
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