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kruzaroad
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That's a whole new thing again involving twist rates, how the barrel was made, length, thickness, harmonic vibration, crowns. Pcp go to a another lvl in tunability compared to springers.
Bsa and gamo are both owned by the same company, but bsa have a pretty good reputation for thier barrel making method. lothar walther barrels seem to have a good name for after market barrels. I watched a video that was talking about FX barrels that were smooth but twisted as they formed them to induce spin. A barrel that was smooth till just near the end then rifled. Look up barrel twist rates, look up what affect does barrel length have, look up air gun barrel manufactor process. Look up barrel crowns. Look up how does harmonic vibration affect poi,look up tuning a rifle barrel. Edited by kruzaroad - 24 Jan 2023 at 1:49am |
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CuteRabbit
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ha, you are right! just checked my barrels.
They are rifled ! Just cheap rifles never mentioned the rifled steel barrel in their description Then that should be cool with rifled barrel.
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Squirrel goes Vege
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kruzaroad
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What utter crap. Your talking through a hole in your arse.
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CuteRabbit
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That's pretty old fashion I had to say.
Auckland seems a little bit different though, you know staff there just want to sell smthing to you or leave you to have a look. They can only break the barrel, show the joint but not cock it. seems because no space for shooting if cock it.
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kruzaroad
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It's very unlikely that your guns arnt rifled. Look down the barrel.
No you don't have to start with gun city. Start by looking on the Web, and reading reviews. Start by looking up the difference between a cheap air gun, medium and expensive. Go to gun City and tell them you want to by a air rifle but would like to try a couple a of shots. They may well have a shooting range out back. If they do, shoot a couple of differnt guns and don't buy any. Then go to anther store try the same thing differnt guns. There is no rush. Practic your shooting with your air chief. You will benifit more from taking your time to learn about air guns. Before you get your new one. Are you aware of adjustable triggers, that you need to check the tension of screws, things come loose, accuracy goes out the window. Adjusting stuff. Example is your question how long before the piston explodes! Never unless it's the crappie St air gun ever, however the seal will wear, you can replace that. Some oils are not good to use with your guns. In less than a. Year I've had then given away a gamo ( to someone who uses and likes his gamo) brought a tx200 and scope, Swapped that for a sig ( but kept the scope. A good quality scope can be changed from gun to gun and I'll pay for a good quality scope for that reason. Brought a cheap pistol that is easy to work on. Brought a cheap rifle for same reason. Hoping to get a weihrauch next month in 22 ( I may not like it and get rid of it but if I do then I have a good rifle to last me in 22 as well as the good 177 I have. Its a very complex world air rifles, lot of good and bad, lot to learn. Take your time make your next gun something that suits you. |
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CuteRabbit
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Thank you. and the first 500 rounds is about the rifled barrel? My stalker jr. and surgemax are not rifled I think?
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CuteRabbit
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You are right. Just haven't find a shop with those classical brand I think?
Seems like I will start with a pop level in GunCity... sadly
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kruzaroad
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Dude you really need to start looking at how how airguns work.
I really don't think you have been listening to what advise ppl have been trying to give you. So tell me what do you want the air gun for. Target shooting, hunting, both. Because at the moment you just all over the place with what your looking at. Go and buy a really expensive gamo, the most powerful they have. Get the 10 shot magnum. Make sure its cool, really cool like a real rifle. Then join a gun club. Then start target shooting with it. When you find out power and expense and coolness do not always make for the best gun, and you realise that you have may just have wasted your money for what you were looking for, come back ask the question again and listen to advise some of these guys have given you. There are some very experiance shooters here. They have done the hard yards. They build and alter thier rifles. They are target shooters and hunters. They tend to offer sound advise. If I had joined this site and asked about air rifles before I rushed out and brought that gamo ( I had was swayed by 10shot mag) I know I would have brought a gun much more suited to my needs. But as I say go buy an expensive gamo magnum for target shooting. Put of point of interest gamo has a coloir system with thier bands around stock. I think it's green is hunting, red is hunting and recreation, blue is target. I've never seen a blue banded gamo. |
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CuteRabbit
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?seems should buy an expensive GAMO or Crossman then?
How many rounds the Stalker junior or Surgemax can last before the piston smashed? 1000rounds or 2000rounds?
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nunga
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you will need to shoot at least 500 pellets before the rifle will settle down. Then you will need to find a pellet that it likes. After that you should worry about changing scopes. Pointless changing things on a new rifle until it runs its self in.
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