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There are air rifles out there that cost plenty that arnt exactly well built.
Toz rock! One of the best .22lr I've used. I love it.
Closely followed by a jw50, neither great builds but both are as accurate as and shoot flawlessly.
End of the day if you got a good shooter it's a good shooter.
What pellets you use in it?
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punched a hole through aluminium beer can full of water at 22m approx.its not exactly a crafted piece but typical rusky/chinese like my very early toz17.22rifle!!
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I imagine a new spring and seal would do a heap of good for it.
Shouldn't be to much either.
So how acrrute was the Chinese gun.
I rember they brought one out years ago that was double Sprung.
Powerful, reasonably accurate. Got have a dozen shots on one.
Story I heard was it was made to get new troops in Chinese army use to firing and recoil.
They can make guns when they want to.
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Spoke to guy at j vaughan &co.the main spring is tired too(30yrs old -lost temper),so I may renew both in the new year .mate is headed to wellington ,has offered to transport them for me. Itried my chinese special out earlier in the week-   its toey  and barks!!
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Originally posted by kruzaroad kruzaroad wrote:

@nunga so how far would you go when touching up a cylinder. I. E light deburring, slight polish, leave alone etc. Would this vary from cheaper to top quality models?


I would leave it alone, not worth the risk, been there done that lol.

Polishing builds up friction very quickly on the piston seal as there is more surface area touching the seal, i would be looking to open the transfer port and polishing that to get a bit more power but again if you open it up to much you will end up losing power.
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Air gun rated scope? Springers kill scopes.
Great you've got it up and running. Throw a few pics.
I image a spring won't be hard to get.
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latest guys .spoke to guy from J Vaugan .from serial nos he estimates the rifle was built late 1980s-mid 1990s.not sure if they had a spring in stock.anyhow today after muckin round ,Ive reassembled the  old girl safety is slightly sloppy but most important it works. 
Ive mounted a redfield 4x scope i was given with my latest .22 gift and laser sighted the old girl. She does fire ,altho id say a new mainspring would be a goer in the future sometime.
Shell be ok for a spot of target prasctise though meanwhile. shes smoother than the chinese jobbie Ive also got -it barks like a demented pomeranian. thanks for all you excellent advice and heres to hoping i can reciprocate.
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@nunga so how far would you go when touching up a cylinder. I. E light deburring, slight polish, leave alone etc. Would this vary from cheaper to top quality models?
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polishing tends to over heat things and burn out piston seals very quickly
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The level of polish is an interesting subject. I could see a high mirror shine actually increasing drag and heat, clearing the surface lubricant quicker. (speculation have not looked into it to deep)
Where as the wet dry would leave tiny scratches that the lube would fill.
If the seal actually pushes into them this would in theory actually create a larger surface contact area.
What is general difference you guys who are pulling rifles apart all the time, have seen between the brands?
Have any of you seen a mirror finish stock in a cylinder or is it usually just a high shine (if that)
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