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    Posted: 16 Sep 2024 at 3:05pm
It would really lean itself to a pcp set up. 30 cal+ barrel, smooth bore. Print the cartridge. Up the bb size.
Pcp would make smoking good shoty.
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Break barrel.
Loads a plastic cartridge that has small wad front and rear,bbs and wads come out of cartridge.
Cartridge gets taken out manually.

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How exactly does an air gun shot gun work?
Walk quietly, but carry a big stick.
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Ive just put my b3 slug gun back together and tested it against the shed wall I want to shoot birds in.
It doesn't penetrate the tin so Im stoked.
It will be my bird gun to smoke the black birds and sparrows that invade my shed.
Still interested in the shotgun slug gun tho but not as necessary now.
Nah I dont think a net will stop them pooping over all my stuff but a lead pill will hehehe
As long as there is lead in the air...there is hope.
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Originally posted by jusepy82 jusepy82 wrote:

I'm kinda looking at one of these for the same problem.
Birds pooping on everything in my shed.
Are they worth getting and do they still sell ammo for them?
Are there any for sale in nz ?



Would installing a net in the shed appeal? I have done this in farmers sheds to great effect. Purpose made 19 mm net.
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I had a play with paulos gun.
Typical gamo build, could do with tinkering..
I'd give it a 7m range for sure kill.. Small bird.
Cartridges cost but Paulo had been reloading them and got differnt sized bb from Web.
Bbs they come with are tiny.
I rember thinking it would be a good close range gun for small birds.
Pretty niche so if you got one cheap could be a go.
However it's an air rifle, it's loud enough that youll prob only get one shot and they would be gone. It's a very limited use gun in my view
Fun though
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I'm kinda looking at one of these for the same problem.
Birds pooping on everything in my shed.
Are they worth getting and do they still sell ammo for them?
Are there any for sale in nz ?
As long as there is lead in the air...there is hope.
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It may be, doesn't have DX mentioned anywhere. If I can do a choke I'll have to lathe the outter polymer off and do a push on or external thread if that makes sense.

I'll do reloaded shells first when I can find the shot. Will use a wad punch and punch some 3mm cardboard for the wadding and will experiment with the front end to keep the shot in. I think overfilled shot will make the difference than doing a choke.

Will keep you posted
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Originally posted by Billbobnz Billbobnz wrote:

Red dot turned up today, haven't had much time other than mount it and sight it in for 15m using flat head pellets, they are not too bad at that distance (will try diablo next)

Only fired 1 shot shell and at that distance it had spread out to a good 14" area with at least 2-3" between the pellets so definitely not as good as the brother in-laws choked barrel (he gets about a 9-10" spread at that distance.

Is it worth lathing up a brass choke for the barrel?? If I did and got a 6" spread at that distance it would be an amazing gun for pests

Do you also have the Shadow DX Express? Because I've got that one and I can't see any choke or rifling on my barrel. Haven't really stopped to pattern it, but it feels it spreads quite a bit too. If you get a choke for it, could I perhaps ask for you to make me one too? How would you fix it though, if you wouldn't be able to screw it as you do on a normal shotgun?

On the reloading thing, I ended up buying quite a few shells, but I'm saving the casings to try doing it at some point. Would be great if you could share any results here with reloaded shells. It has about 20J of power, so should be able to shoot bigger pellets than the bird shot at close range.
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I will have a look at reloading the shells with more shot and see what happens.
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Red dot turned up today, haven't had much time other than mount it and sight it in for 15m using flat head pellets, they are not too bad at that distance (will try diablo next)

Only fired 1 shot shell and at that distance it had spread out to a good 14" area with at least 2-3" between the pellets so definitely not as good as the brother in-laws choked barrel (he gets about a 9-10" spread at that distance.

Is it worth lathing up a brass choke for the barrel?? If I did and got a 6" spread at that distance it would be an amazing gun for pests

Edited by Billbobnz - 21 Oct 2022 at 12:08pm
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I saw something on the Web about the reason they rifle, air rifle barrels (deablo shape is stable in flight even through smooth barrel)
Was due to air pushing past the pellet as it left the barrel, upsetting the pellet balance at beginning of flight.
spin stabilisation countered that.
It recommended that getting the end of the barrel recrowned on a bit more of an angle and make sure its machined to high standard so the air pushes past evenly as pellet leaves barrel can improve smooth bore accuracy.
Hopefully we will see plenty of starlings and hopefulky a few 2 with one shot. Maybe even a couple on the wing at close range.
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I managed to pick up a Gamo viper express last week with 4 boxes of shells. Slightly newer version from my brother in-laws wich was the first version.

My gun does not have the choked and rifled muzzle so probably not as accurate in firing pellets. Also the shot groups are higher at 15m than his gun so they may have set this on the newer version to increase range? Or it might be me... I've missed two starlings because of this shooting high. Will repost once red dots on and hopefully a pile of starlings.
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Originally posted by kruzaroad kruzaroad wrote:

Im only going back a week or two with "cant use alloy pellets"

lol That definitely breaks my case then.

Originally posted by kruzaroad kruzaroad wrote:

I primarly hunt. Do a lot of target shooting but thats sorting guns for hunting and improving techniques. The farm im on has a lot of game. Since first got gamo taken hare,rabbit,pigeon,quail,pheasent and cats. All cats taken with tx.Arnt allowed to shot magpie which sux cause there is way to many. If there were possums ( is that the real spelling or a kiwi thing? I thought it was opossum) Id be knocking them off too.
I need to start on the mynars and starlings but havent. I have no idea why. I use a gilly suit during the day which os especially effective with birds. They just dont seem to pick up on it very well. Other critters are getting wise to it.
Im actually out sheridan way.

That sounds quite good, I do some plinking, but mostly hunt too. I've had a permission in a farm near a block I have down in Waipuk for wild turkeys, but the farm has sold last week and now I'm trying to figure out the new owners to see if they're happy for me to carry on taking them down. Til then I'll have to settle with plinking in my own block or using the DOC land for bigger game with my crossbow.

The Viper Express will be likely for varmints around the house, or whatever else I can get short range 😃
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thats what i do with them now. Go in with what i want. Will get them to check products for use on air rifles. For example the cyclinder lube I ended up getting I got them to check on web for me as i hadnt seen it before.
Im only going back a week or two with "cant use alloy pellets"
I primarly hunt. Do a lot of target shooting but thats sorting guns for hunting and improving techniques. The farm im on has a lot of game. Since first got gamo taken hare,rabbit,pigeon,quail,pheasent and cats. All cats taken with tx.Arnt allowed to shot magpie which sux cause there is way to many. If there were possums ( is that the real spelling or a kiwi thing? I thought it was opossum) Id be knocking them off too.
I need to start on the mynars and starlings but havent. I have no idea why. I use a gilly suit during the day which os especially effective with birds. They just dont seem to pick up on it very well. Other critters are getting wise to it.
Im actually out sheridan way.
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