PSE Coalition Frontier crossbow
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Topic: PSE Coalition Frontier crossbow
Posted By: kruzaroad
Subject: PSE Coalition Frontier crossbow
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2024 at 9:36pm
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So I just assembled the pse crossbow. Mate said if I assembled it for him could use it for a week. Deal. Its pretty easy to put together. One central Allen bolt holds the sturrip and bow to stock, that has a grub screw to lock it in place . I found it easier to put the string slide in from the side rather than try to get it past the stop at front. Thats about it really. Add the arrow quiver mount to the picatinny rail that holds the forestock. Wax the strings, oil the cams, grease the string slide, grease the rail, done. It feels solid but is molded plastic stock and rail. The sight is illuminated in 3 colours and lights up the lines of retical , not just center. Only fired one shot so far, trigger just felt like a continuous motion till it released. Pull was more than u like, as was travel. Shot a old used Bailage wrap at 20y, I stuffed in a cardboard box. Accurate enough out of box to hit target (not bull) . Had to cut bolt out. Thin bits of wrap had wielded to the plastic feathers. Easy enough to cock. with cocking rope. Sight in tomorrow if can make a good target, Bailage wrap is out. But yeah seems like a sturdy made weapon of not outstanding quality at first look. Find out tomorrow what it shoots like. 
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Posted By: Billbobnz
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2024 at 9:23am
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Nice nice nice If you use a hay bale make sure it's a high density one or the bolt will keep on going..!! A sack of 40kg of rags is what I use. Oh and start your sight in at least than 20... I still have a bolt stuck in a tree..,.. What scope is it on top, what is the reticle? |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2024 at 9:56am
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I'll throw scope up later when bit less light so can show the glow as it was. Bit windy to sight in properly. Started at 18m, but thought about it for a bit and folded a sleeping bag (zipped up) in half length ways, then in half again a couple more times, then rolled it the rest. Then masking tapped around it with a few strips to hold it, folded it in half again, taped that put in paper bag. Rember with Bailage wrap which is dense it buried right in and warped the feathers. Sleeping bag as follows 
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Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2024 at 10:15am
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That was first two shots previous pic. Right hand group of 3 shots last before gave up till wind settles.  One pratice shaft lost that skimmed the bag, my fault. All said and done it's very pleasent to shoot. Very shootable, and seems pretty accurate at 18m. Major pain in arse for sighting in, having to wax strings/rail all the time. Keep going to get arrows. |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2024 at 10:53am
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The scope has no markings at all. Is fixed some where between 2x and 4x. The glass is clear. The only focus is for sharpening the retical. Has two colours in illumation. Red and blue, 3 intensities. Both these are the brightest. Works without illumation. Screw driver adjust.  
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Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2024 at 12:49pm
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I had noticed that the undamaged flights (left arrow) was 2 mildots holdover, while the damaged (right) was 3 mildot holdover. This is 35m aimed center of target at thier respective mildots.  Thats pretty cool that it fires the defective flights consistently. Need to drop my holdover height by about half mildot I think. I'd have been happy paying upto about 600 for it. But know nothing of crossbow prices. |
Posted By: Billbobnz
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2024 at 6:24pm
| Awesome, did it have in the manual the approximate yardage for the milldots? |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2024 at 7:18pm
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Yep it had a manual. Just scope installation. And the instruction to rough site it to 20yards, then fine tune it at 50 yards. Looked them up on Web and they are worth just on a grand nz. |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2024 at 6:46am
| That's the whole crossbow with sight for a grand. |
Posted By: RangerPete
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2024 at 2:45am
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If the bow and bolts are well tuned, it should shoot consistently with 4,3,2,1 or even no fletches, if it is well tuned. ------------- Walk quietly, but carry a big stick. |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2024 at 8:06am
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Really? Makes you wonder why they don't just put one flight on them. Oh that's right consistency in flight. |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2024 at 3:54pm
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So crossbow went back. Over all not a very versitle weapon with out small game heads. Never got to goats, didn't take it out as wasn't practical for small game without small game heads. Limited to just goats here without and they were across river. Still had great time sighting in and testing it. Spent most of time with shooting sticks and sig going after starlings at aprrox 50m to 60m, trying to improve my shooting. Would I buy a crossbow? Don't think so. Done goat hunting with a recurve when younger and think I prefure it. Crossbow I find rather heavy and it's width a bit annoying, shafts need a quiver really and your ammo supply is,limited.compared to tin of pellets,but very useful tool for larger game I would say. Be interested to try an air bow. Seen a few reviews and they seem to have much better penitration. But for now air rifle is fine by me. |
Posted By: RangerPete
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2024 at 8:31pm
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I’ve never been a fan of cross bows my self, although there are many who like them. For me there is a challenge, and a skill, in being able to accurately shoot a bow and arrow. Dosent matter if it’s a recurve, long bow or compound, they are all rewarding when your arrow hits what u were aiming for. I also love shooting rifles. There is a satisfaction in holding a beautiful wooden stock in both your hands, feeling that butt seat snuggly into your shoulder and laying your cheek down onto a well shaped cheek-piece, aiming and squeezing slowly. Pellets or powder, I love them both. But as much as I love bows and rifles, I’ve never seen the attraction in combining them. Perhaps because I love each so much for what they are, two very different disciplines requiring different skill sets, which can both satisfy my love of hunting. I’ve owned many bows and many rifles in my life, and God willing I will still own many more, but I’ll keep my love of arrows and stocks separate 😂😂😂 ------------- Walk quietly, but carry a big stick. |
Posted By: Billbobnz
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2024 at 9:07pm
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I actually agree with you Pete says me who owns and loves my xbow. Mine is far too powerful for small game doing just on 400fps with 550ish grain bolts. The reason I did go xbow is my trad bow that I started with needed hours of practice and constant training and that goes for compound bows too. Xbow is almost set and forget and ready with little or no practise once you've dialled in and sorted the ballistics. Also the xbow give me a tab more range should I get closer than 80m. I still have 2 trad bows and do want to put the rewarding time into them and take an animal in the future |
Posted By: RangerPete
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2024 at 10:04pm
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👍🏻 ------------- Walk quietly, but carry a big stick. |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2024 at 7:39am
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Very nice description Pete. Instantly wanted to get the rifle out after reading that description. I think the same, though I personally never meshed with the compound bow. I fully appresiate what a great weapon it is and though I do love hitting that part of the pull on a compound where the tension drops and you lift to sight, that is a compound bow uniqueness that I really like. Don't find it the same in a recurve. Compound bows just seem to be to much engineering for a primitive tool. (which is what bow hunting is about to me. A personal, not practical view) Love that smooth uncomplicated feel of recurve. It's weight and simplicity. The tracking of game if its run off, with the shaft working to keep it bleeding as it moves. Never found that in a xbow (tracking excluded) . Sort of like the best of both guns and bows combined without the feeling or praticality of either. Have many times thought of getting some yew and making a recurve but as of yet haven't. Still xbows are a great weapon in thier own right and serve a purpose. Those who mesh with them have a great hunting tool. (and probly won't miss having had a bow string connecting with the forearm learning) Still each to their own and in all reality the shortest time of any hunt is the actual sighting and firing, so if it gets you out there it's a win. But I'll be keeping bow and rifle separate. |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2024 at 3:27pm
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As it turns out the guy I set it up for has got rid of it. Much prefured the practically of the pcp pistol that got made for him. |
Posted By: RangerPete
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2024 at 12:33am
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I’ve been doing a bit of field archery again, got 3rd place in our local (4 clubs) interclub shoot last weekend. And watching the Olympics the last few days has got me all keen (again) to try a recurve. I used to shoot a lot of target archery many years ago, used to shoot a format call a FITA, these days they call it a 1440, it’s 144 arrows (lot of shooting in one day), starting at 90m, then 70, then 50 and finishing at 30m. I used to love it. ------------- Walk quietly, but carry a big stick. |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2024 at 7:56am
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Sweet. Can't say I've ever tried that format but sounds pretty grueling. No wonder you start at distance, I imagine your bow arm is getting a little shaky by end of it. Be keen on seeing a few pics of next visits targets and your bows and stuff. Bow hunting is a wonderful skill. I should get back into it, might have to by a terribly cheap bow and see if fingers can handel a bow string. Few more posts in this section will definitely lean me that way. What little we have in this section, has started to bring that yearning. |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2024 at 10:17am
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I'm doomed. In pricing entry level recurve today. 350ish probly see if can afford next week. |
Posted By: RangerPete
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2024 at 11:32am
Some eye candy for you Kruza…     ------------- Walk quietly, but carry a big stick. |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2024 at 11:45am
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Massive! Looks like big critters are in just as much trouble with you on a bow as the pests are with you on a pcp! Dam big carp! Hamilton out of the Waikato? Dude do you want to do a thread and blurb about bow fishing, what set up you use and any tips? Its something I've always been curious about, but never really looked into. Appresiate it if you have the time. |
Posted By: RangerPete
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2024 at 12:01pm
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Can do. I’ll try get around to it in the next few days. ------------- Walk quietly, but carry a big stick. |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2024 at 12:13pm
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Any time is fine. Its something I want to try in a swimming hole on farm on couple of introduced fish here. Type shall remain unnamed for now. I'm so out of pratice and arnt sure how I'll handel a bow, or even how I'll go pulling a bow string, since I lost ends of 2 of me fingers. But dam with pics like you put up I'm keen to see. Old memories of the fun of bow hunting goats. But reality is won't be trying bow fishing for a while. Cheers |
Posted By: RangerPete
Date Posted: 04 Aug 2024 at 12:40am
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You really don’t need to pull heavy poundage for a fishing bow. You are only shooting like, max 5m. 40 pounds is really more then ample for any type of fresh water fish and 90% of any salt water species. Unless you plan to take on a sailfish or a huge king-ie… in which case, good luck with that 😂 But for carp, even that big grass carp I shot, 20 or 30 pounds is ample. If you are almost “starting over” again, there is no reason why you couldn’t teach your self to shoot “other handed” 😂. ------------- Walk quietly, but carry a big stick. |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 04 Aug 2024 at 6:25am
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That's not likely to happen. There's a trigger release system for the string I've seen if I really need it. Whats your spool set up, line weight, how does it attach to the shaft, arrow weight, head type. Do you think a spool on recurve would effect it much, compound bows seem better set up for a spool mount. I'm not even sure if you aim above or below the fish, Is there any tactics to stalking a fish to be aware of. Like would a fast lift aim be enough to scare bigger fish out a few meters out from bank. How much does an arrow deflect in a river if it has current. You know totaly newbe stuff. Bow fishing for dummies basically, because when it comes to bow fishing that's just what I'll be. Do you bow fish in the ocean? I'm assuming that's from the around the rocks onshore or does chumming off a boat work. What's your best shot and fish battle. Whats it like trying to bring a badley shot fish I imagine you run the risk of pulling the shaft out, are gloves a good idea to wear for pulling the line on bigger fish. |
Posted By: Billbobnz
Date Posted: 04 Aug 2024 at 4:16pm
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That bow is looking very Matthew's? Crazy how accurate compounds are these days. I took a mate to Arrowhead archery in Darfeild last Thursday and he got kitted up with a PSE Brute. First time archery for him. |
Posted By: RangerPete
Date Posted: 04 Aug 2024 at 11:00pm
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Very Mathews indeed….and I do love it. So dead in the hand on the shot. I’ve got stupid long arms with a 32inch draw length, so I’m limited on the selection of bows that fit me, but I do love my Mathews Atlas 👍🏻 ------------- Walk quietly, but carry a big stick. |