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Topic: Wanted info
Posted By: Stuart
Subject: Wanted info
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2023 at 11:52am
I’m after breech seals for TX200/ Prosport anyone know specifications and where to get them please.
Vitron and Nitrile have been suggested.
Stu



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Posted By: Stuart
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2023 at 12:07pm
BS108. ID 6.02mm, OD 11.26mm, thickness 2.62mm.
Just noticed specs on line and suggested shore hardness for bottom one 75
And top one of 90 vitron
Cheer’s I will see who has them.


Posted By: Pauly5
Date Posted: 05 Jul 2023 at 7:31am
I have 2 spare from memory, but would need to check. If you can't get one let me know. 


Posted By: Stuart
Date Posted: 05 Jul 2023 at 9:29am
Hello Paul
Thanks for that offer, I should be ok a pretty standard size and available in Christchurch.
Existing one gone hard and cracking. Also doing piston extension with o’ring instead of standard seal
And the spring guide was as loose as so making new one of them and hopefully should reduce the bit of buzz.
Cheer’s
Stu


Posted By: jwabfrog
Date Posted: 05 Jul 2023 at 1:40pm
Multiple seal options if you want to buy online from offshore:

http://vortekproducts.com/ourstore/AirArms_Piston_Seal
https://www.airrifleheadquarters.com/catalog/item/251485/1390459.htm
https://www.customairseals.com/product/air-arms-tx200-pro-sport-breech-seal/
https://twchambers.co.uk/airgun-spares/air-arms/pro-sport/or002-breech-seal-set-of-2/
https://spares.bagnallandkirkwood.co.uk/product/2-x-upgraded-air-arms-tx200-prosport-breech-seals/

I've ordered from, custom air seals, bagnall and TWC with good service from each in the past


Posted By: Pauly5
Date Posted: 06 Jul 2023 at 9:00am
Sounds like a good project there Stu. 
I'd be keen to see photo's of the O ring piston seal if you can be bothered. will you make it out of aluminium? 


Posted By: Stuart
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2023 at 9:46pm
Turning all the bits up next week so will show photos when it’s about to go back together.
Just got O’rings coming down from Wellywood so will see how it goes.
Keep you posted. Parts less than $20 just an hour or two machining.
Using existing spring, would have liked original but will see how it shoots
The spring guide in it now is very loose so next one should improve the buzz.


Posted By: Stuart
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2023 at 9:48pm
Thanks for all the info


Posted By: Pauly5
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2023 at 10:38pm
I turned up a top hat and guide for an HW80 out of delrin, and it was like it had snowed around the lathe with the amount you take off.


Posted By: Stuart
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2023 at 12:36pm
I’m using molybdenum impregnated Nylatron for all parts with viton o’ring on extension. Give it a whirl eh!
Someone over in uk has done one and has had good success with it so more or less copying his work
After 4 years of using its still working good,so all being well will be less than just buying new seal.
Fingers crossed.


Posted By: Stuart
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2023 at 12:38pm
You don’t get anything thing out if you don’t put the work in.


Posted By: Stuart
Date Posted: 12 Jul 2023 at 4:59pm
Turned all the parts and will show pics as I install tomorrow.


Posted By: Stuart
Date Posted: 13 Jul 2023 at 6:06pm
Just got finished and Prosport is much better no spring twang as with the old loose spring guide
Turned a nice tight one up in Nylatron as are the piston extension and top hat, a slight radius was required on
Seal undercut to allow fitting of the extension also needed 4 slots to allow expanding to fit a good tap with
My tapometer so this is a nice tight fit.
A bit stringy to turn but pleased with results and new seals now a lot cheaper and easy to change.
New breech o’rings aswell. The spring isn’t standard so would like to get one as this one seems a bit strong but
Will see how it goes 31coils. Hello I will get some photos on.
Shimmed side play in trigger now much better
Piston extension 17.5mm
Copied what a UK guy did but used existing undercut and didn’t need to use securing screws.
https://nbroadsman.me.uk/index.php/air-rifles/air-arms-tx200-hc-tuning


Posted By: Pauly5
Date Posted: 13 Jul 2023 at 7:10pm
Looking forward to seeing them.


Posted By: Stuart
Date Posted: 13 Jul 2023 at 7:27pm
I don’t seem to have permission to load photos


Posted By: Pauly5
Date Posted: 13 Jul 2023 at 8:20pm
I had a look and can't see any restrictions on your profile.
Maybe Nunga will check, he knows heaps more about it.

I can see you have a couple of images uploaded, but can't see them or when you uploaded them.


Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 13 Jul 2023 at 8:52pm
Showimg up on my ph.


Posted By: Stuart
Date Posted: 13 Jul 2023 at 8:54pm
Yep all good now thanks.


Posted By: Pauly5
Date Posted: 13 Jul 2023 at 9:26pm
There ya go.

I'll be interesting to see how the O ring setup goes for you. Good work!

Would a quick blast of heat get rid of the stringy bits? Where did you buy that material from?


Posted By: Stuart
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2023 at 12:27pm
Offcut of 30dia x 150mm Nylatron from LEP Plastics Chch $10
O’rings Pacific seals Wellington total of 6 for piston and breech 2 sets of each for spares total $7
Nylatron specs
The closest to Oilon Nylon is Nylatron GSM which is specifically formulated with a molybdenum disulfide (MoS2) additive. This additive provides enhanced strength, rigidity, and self-lubricating properties to the material. The presence of MoS2 particles helps to reduce friction and wear, making Nylatron GSM well-suited for applications involving sliding or rotating parts.
Guy in Uk been using his setup for about 3 years with no trouble at all with extension and theViton o’ring
So I will have to get out and do some shooting and see how mine goes.


Posted By: Stuart
Date Posted: 16 Jul 2023 at 12:13pm
Zero’d at 16yards shooting very smooth then target at 35 yards 6 shots 10 mm crs with jsb 10.3 shown in photo.
Haven’t got a crono but pellet drop suggests 12.1 ft/lb sorry got that wrong about 11.2 I expect that this might increase slightly as gun settles in.
Pleased with the mods done a much nicer feel.



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