Hades in a Gamo CFR .22
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Topic: Hades in a Gamo CFR .22
Posted By: RangerPete
Subject: Hades in a Gamo CFR .22
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2023 at 9:04pm
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Hi Folks, A while ago I tried a few different pellets in my CFR under lever. Tried the H&N variety pack and the baracuda hunter grouped well, but you can’t buy them in the shops… 😡 (Why put them in a test pack if you can’t buy them???) I ended up using baracuda hunter extreams with ok groups of 20mm at 25m. Not great but ok for hunting. This afternoon I tested the JSB Hades against the hunter extreams, and I found out that my Gamo CFR quite likes the Hades 15.89gr in .22. Shooting at 25m, I shot a sighter, then an 8 shot group. It seemed to settle after 3 shots, and the last 6 shots were a one hole group with a ctc of 7mm…. Hummm. It’s not a TX200, but I’ll take that any day thanks 😉  ------------- Walk quietly, but carry a big stick. |
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Posted By: Billbobnz
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2023 at 9:23pm
| Woooooo that's a great result. Pays to check alot of pellets to find the right one. |
Posted By: Pauly5
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2023 at 10:46pm
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Thaat's good. In my experience with springers it pays to fire a few shots to kinda warm it up, so to speak. The H&N pellets are a harder lead, and it also pays to clean or shoot a few shots if you change pellets to kinda re lead to suit.
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Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2023 at 2:18pm
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I'm curious at the OK for hunting remark. As Opposed to what? Target shooting. Surely not, you wouldn't wasn't a hunting rifle of less prrsion than a target rifle? |
Posted By: RangerPete
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2023 at 11:46pm
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U lost me in translation there Kruza… I want every one of my rifles to be as accurate as possible. If it can’t produce a tight group it’s not worth a thing. What constitutes a tight group (in my opinion) varies from rifle to rifle, depending on what my intended use is for that particular rifle. A 10cm group at 15m was acceptable for my old work rifle. But that was a .458 Lott charge stopper, shot freehand with open sights, 3 shots in 8 seconds. I have different expectations for a pcp, and different expectations for a springer. For a rabbit hunting rifle the bare minimum acceptable group for me would be the bottle top test. Of course if it can stack pellet on pellet that’s awesome, but not every one has a rifle that can. And that’s why we keep testing, always trying to improve. ------------- Walk quietly, but carry a big stick. |
Posted By: J-S
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2023 at 1:10pm
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The hades are an expanding version of the JSB Exacts, which are a very good pellet for most rifles. Id be interested to see the grouping of JSB exacts as a comparison ------------- https://www.instagram.com/js_airguns/" rel="nofollow - J S Airguns Air Arms TX200('s) Theoben Sirocco HW77 FWB 300s Webley Patriot One or two others... Current projects: Too many.. |
Posted By: RangerPete
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2023 at 6:53pm
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Hi J-S, I’ve been trying to get hold of some JSB exacts in .22 for a while, but neither guncity or H&f carry them. Have made an enquire with my local sports store and if they can’t source some I’ll have to buy on line. Once I have some I’ll definatly post a pic of how they went in the CFR, and compare to the hades. Also been trying to get my head around the naming of the JSB Exacts… there seems to be 3 versions in .177, and the same 3 versions in .22. If I understand it correctly the “exact express” is the light weight version, the “exact” is the middle weight version, and the “exact heavy” is the heavy version. I think the same applies to the .22 sizes, they just add the word “jumbo” to show it is a .22…??? I haven’t gotten to the .25, kings, and all the rest, still trying to understand the .177 and .22’s. 😂 ------------- Walk quietly, but carry a big stick. |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2023 at 8:21pm
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Would have thought airgunsnz or youngs would have stocked them. |
Posted By: Pauly5
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2023 at 11:06pm
| And of course the Air Arms are basically the same pellet. |
Posted By: J-S
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2023 at 10:31am
JSB, Cometa, Air Arms are all made by JSB so technically the same pellet. Along with FX and a couple of other brands too. Try for the Cometa ones at Airgunsnz.co.nz In .177 they have JSB exact (mid / "standard" weight), Exact Heavy (good for 18fpe rifles we have here), Exact Express (lighter weight good for UK sub 12 fpe), then Exact RS which is lighter again. ------------- https://www.instagram.com/js_airguns/" rel="nofollow - J S Airguns Air Arms TX200('s) Theoben Sirocco HW77 FWB 300s Webley Patriot One or two others... Current projects: Too many.. |
RangerPete wrote:Posted By: RangerPete
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2023 at 3:18pm
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Ooh… never heard of the exact RS, I’ll have to look them up, but just out of curiosity, I don’t think the extra light is the way to go for this CFR (or me, I tend to lean more towards the heavier for caliber side). Is the “exact monster re-designed” the extra heavy version? ------------- Walk quietly, but carry a big stick. |
Posted By: J-S
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2023 at 4:04pm
Oh yeah, theres those too.. Extra heavy. In .177, i'd go for the Exact Heavy in a NZ 'high power' rifle - usually 16-18 footpound. I used them in a .177 Cometa Fusion and it could group nearly as well as my TX200. Anything over "heavy" id say is more designed for high power PCP, you will start to lose efficiency in spring / piston rifles ------------- https://www.instagram.com/js_airguns/" rel="nofollow - J S Airguns Air Arms TX200('s) Theoben Sirocco HW77 FWB 300s Webley Patriot One or two others... Current projects: Too many.. |
Posted By: RangerPete
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2023 at 5:25pm
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Just changed scopes on the CFR. Fitted a NS AirKing 4-12x40AO, because the Nikon didn’t have mil dots. Re-zeroed it at home today, can only get 10m in the garden, but I’ve zeroed it 2mil dots low at 10m. Will need to check it at 20 and 30, and maybe further if I can hold a tight enough group. I know it’s only 10m, but those Hades 15.89gr are looking nice and tight so far…  ------------- Walk quietly, but carry a big stick. |
Posted By: RangerPete
Date Posted: 11 Aug 2023 at 6:20pm
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Finally got hold of some Jumbo Exact 15.89grainers in .22 The Exacts have worked for me all my rifles so I decided to test them against the Hades that the CFR is currently zeroed with. Can only shoot a max of 12.5m in my garden, but it gives a good idea of what the pellets are doing. Had a 3 shot one hole group with the exacts, not bad 👍🏻 but also had a 3 shot one hole group with the hades 😂 so not sure if it’s worth changing and rezeroing. Think I’ll just leave well enough alone and stick with the hades 🤔  ------------- Walk quietly, but carry a big stick. |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 11 Aug 2023 at 8:35pm
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Yep wait till you got a bit more space and let the longer range decide. I found that AA heavy and exact were both really accurate in the sig but the just seed to preform that bit better at distance. Having said that I brought a tin of exact which sits unopened as emergency back up. |