If not JSB, then what…?
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Topic: If not JSB, then what…?
Posted By: RangerPete
Subject: If not JSB, then what…?
Date Posted: 21 May 2023 at 2:59pm
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Does anyone’s guns NOT like JSB pellets? And if not, what do they prefer? ------------- Walk quietly, but carry a big stick. |
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Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 21 May 2023 at 10:28pm
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Air arms Diablo field heavy 177 for sig. Was using air arms for tx when had it. |
Posted By: Pauly5
Date Posted: 22 May 2023 at 3:17am
| My Marauder pistol prefers H&N Ftt (.22). Otherwise everything else I have like JSB or similar pellets from JSB factory. |
Posted By: nunga
Date Posted: 22 May 2023 at 3:18am
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H&N FTT for me! ------------- 2nd place HP springer - WFTF World Championships 2014 |
Posted By: Billbobnz
Date Posted: 22 May 2023 at 5:13am
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I used to me a huge H&N fan but now a mixture of both brands. All depends on what the gun likes. Overall biggest success whit accuracy and stopping power in hunting, and one I still have a soft spot in .177 is the H&N barracuda extreme. |
Posted By: Pauly5
Date Posted: 22 May 2023 at 5:49am
| I used to use H&N ftt .177 in my 97k, but a few years ago they must have changed the hardness of the lead, or made them bigger because they got hard to load into the breech, and consistancy suffered. |
Posted By: nunga
Date Posted: 22 May 2023 at 12:50pm
You do know they come in different head sizes right? look under the tin ------------- 2nd place HP springer - WFTF World Championships 2014 |
Pauly5 wrote:Posted By: RangerPete
Date Posted: 22 May 2023 at 2:20pm
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My old HW100 loved JSB exact. And so did my little AA S410. The dreamline liked the H&N baraccuda hunter (not the extreme), but I can’t find any anywhere, so it’s now on a diet of JSB hades which group “ok” at 40m. Not the “one ragged hole” I’m looking for but I think with some tuning it could get there. My gamo CRF likes H&N barracuda hunter extremes. ------------- Walk quietly, but carry a big stick. |
Posted By: J-S
Date Posted: 23 May 2023 at 8:44am
The Heavies are a great pellet for high power .177. AA Fields are JSB made, similarly with Cometa branded pellets - all good options. ------------- https://www.instagram.com/js_airguns/" rel="nofollow - J S Airguns Air Arms TX200('s) Theoben Sirocco HW77 FWB 300s Webley Patriot One or two others... Current projects: Too many.. |
Posted By: J-S
Date Posted: 23 May 2023 at 8:46am
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I used to use JSB Exact Express in my TX200 when it was short stroked and TBT kit (11 fpe), now changed the setup and it prefers QYS Streamlined... only problem is sourcing the buggers! ------------- https://www.instagram.com/js_airguns/" rel="nofollow - J S Airguns Air Arms TX200('s) Theoben Sirocco HW77 FWB 300s Webley Patriot One or two others... Current projects: Too many.. |
Posted By: Pauly5
Date Posted: 23 May 2023 at 9:10am
I forgot about those QY. I will be getting some when they are in stock. If anyone is serious about buying some, drop a line to Shooting Stuff. The more confirmed interest will hopefully encourage them to bring in more. I've heard of others getting good results from those pellets too.
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Posted By: J-S
Date Posted: 23 May 2023 at 9:14am
They have some more coming, but they were unable to get much of what they requested. BUT the more that gets requested, I guess the more likely they will be able to go direct rather than buying through a distributor. The 9.56gr would be a good one to try in high power .177s ------------- https://www.instagram.com/js_airguns/" rel="nofollow - J S Airguns Air Arms TX200('s) Theoben Sirocco HW77 FWB 300s Webley Patriot One or two others... Current projects: Too many.. |
Posted By: RangerPete
Date Posted: 23 May 2023 at 4:22pm
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Just out of curiosity, the H&N variety test pack in .22 includes a pellet called the Barracuda hunter, which my Gamo CFR really liked, but I could not find any for sale anywhere, so I ended up going with the barracuda hunter extreme. Today I was looking in gun city for .177 cal pellets, I was looking specifically for JSB’s but gun city dosent stock JSB’s. So I had a good look at the extensive range of H&N pellets they do stock, and their house brand called Javelin. Their house brand Javlins are actually made y H&N, interesting to know, so although they are cheaper they should be the same quality. Then I noticed a pellet called a Javelin “rabbiter hollow point”, which looks identical to the barracuda hunter… 🤔🤔🤔. I’m certain Guncity have “bought” H&N’s barracuda hunter pellet and are just having them put into the red Guncity/javelin rabbiter hollow point tin. I’m sure they have done the same with the H&N silver point pellet and the javelins in the blue tin. ------------- Walk quietly, but carry a big stick. |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 24 May 2023 at 1:09am
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I had reasonable results with gun City javelins in gamo,tx and 1322. Enough so I got a second tin. But they were out preformed by other brands. Still a pellet I would consider if more accurate brands for my guns weren't avalible. They also seemed like a softer pellet. |
Posted By: RangerPete
Date Posted: 26 May 2023 at 3:02pm
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I’ve bought a tin of the gun city “rabbiter” which I think are the H&N barracuda hunters. Will measure and weigh them to compare, and will test them for accuracy in the dreamline and let u know how they go, but I do have high hopes for them 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 ------------- Walk quietly, but carry a big stick. |
Posted By: vault
Date Posted: 15 Jun 2026 at 8:57pm
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if jsb arent great then air arms, fx, cometa or my fav Edgun if you can find them. All variations of the jsb i believe, made on different dies. H&N FTT or Baracuda match if you want medium and heavy or RWS good pellets. Crossman Prems in the box were great
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Posted By: Ashman
Date Posted: 15 Jun 2026 at 9:27pm
They're made by JSB and, from the tin of the AA you sent, the weight difference between them and the JSB Diabolo over 20 pellets, weighed on my micro scales for my nymphs and bombs was 1 1/00 of a gram and they were hitting the same POI. Spoke to Ron Young about it and he confirmed they're the same pellet in a different tin.
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Posted By: Ashman
Date Posted: 15 Jun 2026 at 9:35pm
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I'm running JSB Exact Diabolo in the .22 HW97, H & N FTT in the HW90 .22 and just had a 150 pellet session with the HW90 .25 and tried Barracuda, Barracuda Hunter Extreme and Apollo domed(which were the worst of the lot by a pellet trap missing distance) then JSB Hades, which eventually were pretty good, and finally JSB Exact King, which, once the barrel had adjusted to them, were sharp as, with the last three groups all one hole 5 shot groups at 20m. Am I just a pussy, or is there actual recoil from a full power .25?
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Posted By: vault
Date Posted: 15 Jun 2026 at 9:49pm
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Even pussys feel recoil  i havent shot one but theres size wright, strenght, fatigue all chips in. just part of the adventure of being hunter/gatherer men
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Posted By: RangerPete
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2026 at 10:17am
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The Apolos are usually very cheep, and I find with pellets, like most things in life, you get what u pay for. If you want to test a new brand of pellets and give them a fair test, like when changing from H&N to JSB, or vice versa, you should always put 10 or 15 pellets through the barrel before checking for accuracy as the different lead recipes/hardnesses will each need a few shots to lead in the barrel before it will settle. I find it’s not necessary if changing between weights or shapes of the same brand, as they will be made from the same lead, but definatly necessary when changing between different manufacturers. With regards to the recoil of the .25, it’s hard to say… Send it up to me and I’ll test it for you and let you know, but I might need it for a few months to ensure I can test it properly… 😂😂😂 ------------- Walk quietly, but carry a big stick. |
Posted By: -Ec
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2026 at 7:03pm
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Apolos were the best I tried in my Gamo P900 IGT pistol and a close second on my Webley Mark 1 - though only ever at close range (6-8m). My Gold Cup .177 rifle liked JSBS, though with only open sights tin cans at out to 40m was as far as I ever took it. Neither My Gamo or my Diana .22 seem to like JSB 14.35gr Exact Jumbo Express. The best pellet I found for the Gamo was Webley Accupells followed very closely by Stoeger X-Hunt. Will be fully testing Accupells in my Diana when I get time - but initial testing has been positive. Haven't really tested my 177 SA Meteor yet but will be starting with Accupells. My Hatsan seems to like FX and JSBs about the same - using JSBs at present. ------------- Regards, -Ec |
Posted By: Ashman
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2026 at 9:54pm
Holy ship you've got eclectic taste in rifles. More makes than some gun shops. What vintage is the Meteor?
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Posted By: -Ec
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2026 at 7:41am
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Sold my Gamo P900 a while ago and recently sold both my Gamo and Gold Cup. Meteor is a very early Super Meteor - Serial number indicates it was manufactured 1967-69. Ive currently got the Meteor and a Webley MK1 pistol in .177 A Diana 31 & Webley Senior pistol in .22 a Hatsan Carnivore 135 in .30 ------------- Regards, -Ec |
Posted By: Ashman
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2026 at 10:12am
Crikey, how old do have to be to qualify for a Webley "Senior"?
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Posted By: Ashman
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2026 at 10:15am
| The Meteor I had was manufactured around that same time. Great replacement for the Milbro 45 I started with. Better power, better build quality and a great arm workout for a very scrawny trigger happy kid. |
Posted By: -Ec
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2026 at 9:16pm
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The Webley Senior is relativity new - made sometime between 1959 and 1964 the Mark 1 is older - possibly as early as 1947. The Senior is interesting in that it has a phosphor-bronze ring as a piston seal - very similar to the rings on the pistons of a engine. And yes I am older than my Webley Senior LOL! ------------- Regards, -Ec |
Posted By: Ashman
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2026 at 10:46pm
| Unfortunately, I probably am too, if '59 is where they started. |