I've gone rouge - non airgun!
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Topic: I've gone rouge - non airgun!
Posted By: Billbobnz
Subject: I've gone rouge - non airgun!
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2022 at 4:57pm
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Well finally its here and apparently I am one of the first in NZ to receive one :) Mangkung Chester Bullpup Crossbow, 200lb draw weight firing bolts at a blazing 425fps. Mungkung make this for Centerpoint which they call the Wraith and sell for 1K more (theirs come with a silent crank for cocking) Gun city wont like this they sell Centrepoint xbows... I was going to get the Wrath when I found out that H&F were getting these in. I upgraded the scope to a full ballistic reticle scope for 20yd out to 100yrd so will be great for big game down here. Will post some pics once I've fired it.     |
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Posted By: Billbobnz
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2022 at 4:59pm
| Foot Stirrup folds out for cocking and as a bipod for prone shooting and then underneath to make it one of the most compact xbows on the market |
Posted By: flock
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2022 at 8:35pm
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Awesome, stirrips for loading at 200 pds draw, I remember struggling to load a 80 pder when I was a young buck. Only time I ever used one, got charged by a rabbit in long grass he ran into my boot, bounced off an disappeared, I was in shock. Had a crack a another
one but lost the bolt, bloody expensive hunting tip, spent ages trying to find
it, forestry job paid 30 a week after camp and cook house, every dollar was
precious, dozen beer 8 bucks, so losing a bolt was serious. Good Times
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Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2022 at 8:56pm
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Nice looking crossbow. Been keen to hear how it preforms. Does it seriously have the " fingers down" written on scope? Whats the target species you got it for? Will you be using blunt tip for small game or keeping to larger animals only. Is it in time for your hunting trip? |
Posted By: Billbobnz
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2022 at 9:24pm
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Haha will get some cheaper carbon bolts with small game tips for rabbits and Hare. Broadheads for Wallaby, Deer, Tahr and Chamois. Yes it does have a reminder about your fingers, my xbow has excellent finger gaurds. Older xbows if you left your fingers up the string would take the tips off when you fired. Here is a top veiw. 
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Posted By: Billbobnz
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2022 at 9:28pm
| $30 a week....! But you would have been more happier than the average young kid these days :) I know some of my father's friends worken in forestry and the story's they can tell hahaha |
Posted By: flock
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2022 at 9:28pm
| OK can see how it works, old style you just had to free hand it, was a broadhead I lost. |
Posted By: Billbobnz
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2022 at 9:39pm
| The green rope is the cocking rope. Has a sled that runs up the stock to make sure it's evenly pulled back |
Posted By: nunga
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2022 at 11:36am
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I had a similar bow to that one. I ended up selling it in the end as you lose the bolts so easily and if you hit a tree they brake, it was costing too much ------------- 2nd place HP springer - WFTF World Championships 2014 |
Posted By: Billbobnz
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2022 at 1:53pm
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Well I need a proper Xbow rated target.... Blew through both hay bales at 20..... and only just holding by fletching at 50 so took it out to 80 and below shows how far the 20" bolt came through both bales. Scope with range reticle is perfect. At 80 I aimed about 14" right as there is a right to left breeze and POI was perfect for height but drifted a little bit further to the left. Trigger is very crisp, and shot is surprisingly very quiet and virtually no vibration.  80 yards  Through both Bales and sticking out by a good 6"  |
Posted By: Pauly5
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2022 at 11:11pm
| That's impressive. |
Posted By: Mic
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2022 at 7:14pm
| All very very cool |
Posted By: xyon
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2022 at 7:47pm
noice  ------------- --- My favourites springer - Diana 52 PCP - FX Wildcat III |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2022 at 10:43pm
| How's the rossbow working out bb |
Posted By: J-S
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2022 at 10:35am
So i did a google image search to see why the need for such a statement in the scope, and I can confirm it is evidentally quite relevant!  ------------- https://www.instagram.com/js_airguns/" rel="nofollow - J S Airguns Air Arms TX200('s) Theoben Sirocco HW77 FWB 300s Webley Patriot One or two others... Current projects: Too many.. |
Billbobnz wrote:Posted By: Billbobnz
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2022 at 10:44am
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Hahaha yes it is. New target arrived today along with some more higher quality crossbow bolts so will be flat out getting it fully sighted in for hunting. I think my airguns don't like it's new safemate as they haven't been touched for nearly two weeks...... :( |
Posted By: Billbobnz
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2022 at 7:45pm
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New target, new bolts with Ukraine flag fletching for good luck (my fletching on my traditional bow is blue & yellow too) 20m  40m bullseye  60m after the wind got up. 
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Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2022 at 10:31pm
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Looks like the critters might have something to worry about! Is the windage worse than a pellet in same wind? How would you say the flight chararistics compare to a pellet or slug. Hope your tracking skills are up.might be following blood trails and desturbed vegitation for the odd critter. No impact shock if ya a bit off. Nice weapon. Some good targets there. 👍 |
Posted By: Billbobnz
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2022 at 10:47am
| Windage is not too bad it was very gusty on the 60m shot. Still getting used to the trigger and where it breaks. Not a 2 stage but breaks very clean when it does. Filthy weather here today so won't be doing anymore shooting till tomorrow |
Posted By: Billbobnz
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2023 at 9:35pm
My 7yr old and I lying in wait for what my son said was going to be a monster stag. Been granted access to shoot deer on a private property that runs beside a doc block. No deer seen tonight but there is lots of fresh sign. Will pop a trail cam up there when we head back as I forgot it tonight.  
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Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2023 at 10:20pm
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The Prince of camo. 😁 Must be awsome to get out with the younger generation. Bet he loved it as much as you 👍 |
Posted By: Myson
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2023 at 8:31am
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Wow! What a beauty Billbo! Your young fellah is going to have some fun with that superb machine!  Please keep us posted on the ballistics, as you get to know it more.... I'm told a crossbow is "loopier" than a long bow? That surprises me because I've always thought a crossbow bolt would be flatter shooting? It'll be interesting to hear more.. And as you say, the good thing about such a platform, is that you can use it on bigger game too. Can't wait for the pics..... Is it easy to carry on the slopes down your way? ------------- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq7jVyBfFqE" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq7jVyBfFqE Air Arms S510 US .22 Air Arms S410 .22 Weihrauch HW97KT .177 Weihrauch HW95 .177 |
Posted By: Billbobnz
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2023 at 9:17am
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Oliver absolutely loved it. He got the sneezes and had to hold them back which got us into fits of giggles. He was in charge of scent control with the smoke bottle checking wind. Had a ball of a time. Ballistics are quite good. Firing around 410fps, I choose to go slightly heavier with the bolts it came with. Was around 420fps with the standard bolts. Proving to be very accurate out to 80m. Not too bad to carry on the hills, being a bullpup style makes it excellent for in tight bush. Below is the closest I've stalked into a few deer, 150m before they winded me. 
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Posted By: mercs
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2023 at 9:26am
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Serious technology, looking forward to follow up posts. Great pictures, 80 yards what a range, bit much for a hand mower. "Fingers down" great advice, well done to the users and manufacturers that come up with new safety ideas. cheers for now.
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Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2023 at 9:28am
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What's the arc like of the bolt? I imagine your air rifle shooting would be of benifit for bolt trajectory. Great way to spend time with Oliver. Nice pic. Shame wasn't a bit closer and you got to put a bolt in before pic. |
Posted By: Billbobnz
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2023 at 10:25am
| At a guess, when shooting to 80, probably a good 20+ inches of arc if this makes sense |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2023 at 9:45pm
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How much drop is that at 80? Whats the hight above line of sight dies it get to? Roughly. |
Posted By: Billbobnz
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2023 at 8:34pm
| I'll try and work it out next time I'm out |
Posted By: Billbobnz
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2023 at 10:19am
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Alot of hard work finally paid off. Took this young one this morning at around 15m after it's mother didn't give me a shot opportunity. Stags were roaring further up the ridge but refusing to come down. It made it around 13m from where I shot it.  |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2023 at 10:30am
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Nice. You'll be stoked. Meat in freezer. Nicely placed shot. Did the shaft survive. |
Posted By: flock
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2023 at 10:48am
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Goopd on ya the deer Cool one, showing my mrs my spelling is a shocka, apparently your wearing make up. rouge
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Posted By: Myson
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2023 at 4:14pm
Nice One Billbo! What a bow!  What range have you zeroed it for? It seems to be performing extremely well.... were you using bolts with broad heads? ------------- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq7jVyBfFqE" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq7jVyBfFqE Air Arms S510 US .22 Air Arms S410 .22 Weihrauch HW97KT .177 Weihrauch HW95 .177 |
Posted By: nunga
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2023 at 5:33pm
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Nice! got to be happy with that. ------------- 2nd place HP springer - WFTF World Championships 2014 |
Posted By: Billbobnz
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2023 at 8:51pm
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Never found the bolt, complete pass through and ended up in the bush behind somewhere. Firing 20inch bolts with 125grain 3 blade fixed broad heads. Total weight of around 450grains from memory. Haha nope no make up on me. Use a camo balaclava thingy as I hate face paints. Zero is 20m, the scope has corresponding marks from 20 - 100yrds in 10yrd increments. Ate some backstrap last night and this evening. It's the nicest venison we've eaten and incredibly tender and soft. Kids ate as much as me 🤣 |