these winchester pellets allways been made in nz,but winchester shutting down all firearms and ammo production overseas and shipping production to US only.the nz company who had allways made pellets in nz has been shut down too,proberly due to winchester buying them out,so killwell/daisy pellets that had allways been made in nz for many years will no longer be available here as locally made pellets either,just another example of a big US based company getting rid of all locally produced competition i guess,thats todays big share market driven busseness for you taking over markets these days to control markets and prices for the same products they produce,there is nothing fair or nice about US big busseness these days as its all bout the bottom line for US companys and their share holders,thats all they care about. at 10 meters the revolver is sighted in with 14.3 premiers hitting level with top of front sight blade which is dead on point of aim,the winchester pellets hit in exactly same place,which indicates the weights are the same,what i cant understand is that the crosman pellet is longer,has more lead in its core with only 1/3 of its length in the hollow base,the winchester pellets lead center core is hollow allmost to the nose and noticably shorter as well.this should indicate the crosman pellet should be heavier,but scales say both weigh the same which dosnt make sense,so normally would expect both pellets weighing the same to have pretty much identical velocitys within small margin of error so i would expect two identical weight domed pellets to exhibit the same damage after impacting the steel backstop,but this isnt whats happening here,which then indicates one pellet has higher velocity than the other so will have to chrono now to find that out,but as both pellets measure out exactly the same diameters at nose and skirts,if velocity varys enuf for this to happen,why the does the velocity vary enuf to allow this to happen??it dosnt really matter in the scheme of things when it comes to the effectivness of either pellet for hunting as both do the job equally well,i just would like to know it is happening purely out of curiosity fpe is a combination of velocity and projectile weight,so obviously the winchester pellet dispite being same weight must have less velocity for some reason therefore have less fpe on target for this to happen,so i would just like to figure out why i guess out of curiousity more than anything Jono. cheers mike
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