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Topic: Your favorite guns under $500
Posted By: Billbobnz
Subject: Your favorite guns under $500
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2022 at 9:24pm
Thought this might be a good topic to start a chat about.

I picked up a Cannon 737 Multi pump .177 with a 4X32 scope for $100 today. its almost brand new. only doing up to 8 pumps so far and haven't shot through the chrony which I will do tomorrow. Its instantly become a new favorite, at 20m and 40m im hitting two blocks of wood ive got in the garden. Was getting too dark and rainy so haven't seen what the accuracy is like at those distances but the blocks of wood are 4" square.  I see these are a copy of the Sharp Innova and I think the Webley Rebel is very similar. 

 



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Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2022 at 10:47pm
I remover the sharp innova from many years back. It was a highly rated hunting rifle among air enthusiasts back then.
My favorite under 400 dollar gun was the bsa meteor super. It was deadly accurate, comfortable as, had a bit of style and next to no recoil. Never threw the fixed 4x rim fire scope I had on it.Under powered by todays standards but easy to shoot. FUN


Posted By: Billbobnz
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2022 at 3:29pm
Cannon working well today, I am so in love. I'm a bit blurry in the eye at the moment with old contacts so will see what its like when my new ones arrive this week (well that's my excuse for 1 inch groups at 25m Tongue )

Using Gamo Pro Match pellets that came with the gun (7.41 grains) I'm getting the following

1 pump 383fps
2 pumps 518fps
3 pumps 603fps
4 pumps 663fps
5 pumps 708fps
6 pumps 758fps
7 pumps 798fps
8 pumps 828fps
9 pumps 853fps
10 pumps 866fps 

Gun seams to feel best at 6 pumps. 

Got sick of another bantam rooster crowing its head off, perfect head shot at 15m 





Posted By: mercs
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2022 at 5:14pm
.22 Gamo CFX underlever, it just shoots straight.





Posted By: Billbobnz
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2022 at 6:38pm
Nice, I missed out on one of these a few months back. I've got a Chinese underleaver that's surprisingly accurate but I need to refurb it.


Posted By: J-S
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2022 at 7:47pm
Originally posted by Billbobnz Billbobnz wrote:

Thought this might be a good topic to start a chat about.

I picked up a Cannon 737 Multi pump .177 with a 4X32 scope for $100 today. its almost brand new. only doing up to 8 pumps so far and haven't shot through the chrony which I will do tomorrow. Its instantly become a new favorite, at 20m and 40m im hitting two blocks of wood ive got in the garden. Was getting too dark and rainy so haven't seen what the accuracy is like at those distances but the blocks of wood are 4" square.  I see these are a copy of the Sharp Innova and I think the Webley Rebel is very similar. 

 


Nice, I saw that pop up then disappear pretty quickly!
Nice score

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Posted By: Billbobnz
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2022 at 10:36pm
Haha yes sorry about that. The guy said he had only loaded it about 15mins earlier before I scored it. Been playing around with it, 6 pumps max is what it seams to like best and it's actually quite pellet picky and I don't know if this is to do with the brass barrel. Seams to like the cheap airchief gun city flat heads best with 1/2inch groups at 15m, or the old daisy domes are actually firing well too that came with it. The scope is ok and will probably change it later on if I want. I think if I do a more Ridgid barrel sleeve it may improve accuracy too (just plastic sleeve and there is a little movement)


Posted By: Myson
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2022 at 2:11pm
Hi Bilbo,

Yep - I had the Sharp Innova (.177) a few years back and it was superb! At 10 pumps it made one hell of a "crack" - just like a rimfire subsonic!

Used to shoot sticks floating down the Akatarawa River, 80yds from my balcony!!! Smile

Very accurate and bicep building (!) after about 50 shots!!!

Well done for scoring that!


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Posted By: Billbobnz
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2022 at 3:49pm
Thanks for that, they are fun.

Next my ultimate favorite is my modified CR600w this is my starling killer. Been using up till yesterday GunCity Javelin pellets (made by H&N) these have been reforming well through the gun until I found a tin of JSB Straton's and I did a side by side 7 shot group test.  

First up is the GunCity Javelin pellets 15.74gr at 15m - note a flyer to the left



Next up the JSB Straton 15.89gr and a tighter group at 15m






Posted By: Billbobnz
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2023 at 9:34pm
New favorite.....

BSA meteor, brought on trade me on the weekend for $84 complete with original box.

First impressions, spring still feels strong and seals seam fine for 30+ years old. Did 5 shots at 16m with the open sights and got a 1 inch group. Will upload some pics when I get the chance but it's firing smooth for it's age.

Straight to a new favorite gun 🤣


Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2023 at 10:09pm
What cal?


Posted By: Billbobnz
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2023 at 8:51pm
It's in .177

Threw on an old scope from a similar era and did 5 shots at 20m with a variety of pellets with results as below. I'm very impressed with the results for an older rifle and great consistency with those pellets.







Posted By: Billbobnz
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2023 at 9:00pm
On and that paddock in the background, is where rabbits have been hiding out in the long grass, they got cows in to graze it down and I haven't seen a rabbit since.......!


Posted By: mercs
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2023 at 9:10pm
Appreciate the effort and the pictures, nothing wrong with that performance, I tested a .177 after a full rebuild at 721 fps 8.5 ft/lb.
  

BSA
.177 Meteor
Pellet BrandCrosman
Pellet typePointed
Average fps721
Grains7.41
Grammes0.48
foot pounds8.56
Joules11.6

This .22 had a clean and new spring but with original rubber seal
BSA.22 Meteor
Pellet BrandWebley
Pellet typeVMX
Average fps485
Grains14.6
Grammes0.95
foot pounds7.63
Joules10.34



Posted By: Billbobnz
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2023 at 9:40pm
Thanks for that and your notes, I've always wanted a Meteor and now I've got one it hasn't disappointed.

Will disassemble and rebuild at some stage.

I had to scope it as I get blurry eyed with iron sights when I'm targeting


Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2023 at 10:19pm
The bsa meteor super I had when younger and they weren't an old rifle, was hell accurate.
At about 12 meters I took 15 pegs off mums cloths line before I missed, then took the rest out.
Shot a white butter fly too. Three shots as it fluttered round the garden at about 15m. Last one took it down, but when I went to get it all 3 shots had hit. First 2 punched holes in its wing.
Great guns. Will always be a favorite rifle for me.
Mind you I had a trigger finger then too


Posted By: Deano
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2024 at 4:48pm
Hi all, first post!   I have dusted off my old Sharp Innova from the 80's and pulled it apart.  I recall lending it to someone back in the day who thought firing steel darts and nails :(  with it was a good idea!  Needless to say the accuracy was no good after that.  

After pulling it apart it was clear 30 year old O-rings needed replacing....the solution was to order a replacement breech and barrel from a Webley Rebel out of the UK, and an O-ring set.

Also I discovered after a load of googling that if I polish the trigger parts it will make it a way better shooting gun... will find out soon!

Was a great gun when I used it last, very light, powerful and accurate.  Has a period Tasco 4x32AG.


Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2024 at 7:13pm
Great project.
They were the gun have at the time.
I dreamed of getting one. Seemed the ultimate hunting rifle to me at time. Was getting great reviews in air gun mags.
Definitely keep us updated on it all and how it shoots.
Definitely feel a twinge of envy.
Great project, I'll be watching with interest.


Posted By: Deano
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2024 at 9:27am
Yes I seem to recall it costing me $2xx or $3xx from Young's Airgun Centre... something like that.  On a camping/hunting expedition in North West nelson I managed to destroy the original varnish on the stock from having the insect repellant "dimp" all over my face.  That stuff is probably banned now LOL.  The sandflies over that way are ferocious.  So I sanded it all back and re finished it with Birchwood Caseys, came up nice.

Remember shooting several Hares and Possums spotlighting, that gun pumped 10x or more had a lot of stopping power in .22

The only issue really for me was the trigger - at high power it got super notchy and sort of grabbed a few times before release.   Hence the sear polishing and attention in that area.   I notice the webley replacement breech has a 2 stage springed setup which my original doesn't.  Nice!  The sear and sear lift have been given a thorough polish with 1500 and lightly greased, I have trial fitted it and it feels really great already but the test will be when it's under load from the release pin.   If anyone's interested I can post pictures of this - I realise it's a bit of a relic but there's very little information on the web about this particular part of the gun, and improving it I'm pretty confident will make it much nicer to shoot at power and probably improve the accuracy a bit (it's already pretty decent!).




Posted By: Pauly5
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2024 at 12:23am
yea, I'm sure we'd enjoy photos and progress with the refurbishment.


Posted By: Deano
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2024 at 2:31pm
New thread started:

http://www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=960


Posted By: RangerPete
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2024 at 10:39am
My favorite gun under 500 bucks…
My gamo CFR (under lever) in .22
I think I paid 350, with a gamo 3-9 scope, but the scope was crap so I’ve changed it.
Shoots one whole groups at 20m all day long, and packs a fair punch. Quite heavy, but I’m a big boy.
I do love shooting it, something about single shot springers u just got to love.
Only kak thing is the trigger, but hey, it’s a gamo 😂
All day plinking fun 👍🏻


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Posted By: Billbobnz
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2024 at 2:54pm
Nice, are those new CFR has piston or still spring?


Posted By: RangerPete
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2024 at 2:34am
Hi Billbob, I believe mine has the IGT inert gas technology, which is a gas ram. But still double recoils like a springer 👍🏻

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