SIG ASP20 .177
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Topic: SIG ASP20 .177
Posted By: Myson
Subject: SIG ASP20 .177
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2020 at 4:06pm
Just bought the SIG break barrel gas ram springer air rifle and have trialed different pellets.
After about 500 down the barrel, she's settled and likes Air Arms Field 8.44 (Head Size 4.52) best. At 1,010fps I'm getting 19fpe.
But the best bit is that she's as accurate as my Weihrauch HW97KT!!!
Yes! Can't believe it! Using the artillery hold and resting on sand bags, I'm getting sub-1" groups of 5 pellets at 50yds consistently.... Wow! And this is a magnum springer!
Trigger's not quite as good as the HW97KT but it's very satisfactory.
I'm a happy chappie! Anyone else out there with the SIG ASP20? Are you getting similar results? Would like to hear from you....
------------- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq7jVyBfFqE" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq7jVyBfFqE Air Arms S510 US .22 Air Arms S410 .22 Weihrauch HW97KT .177 Weihrauch HW95 .177
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Posted By: Pauly5
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2020 at 11:47pm
I have never fired one of those, but it sounds like you've got it sorted. Can't beat the satisfaction of a springer performing like that,
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Posted By: dvlnme
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2020 at 6:42am
thats excellent accuracy on par with a pcp mate,finding the best pellet half the battle with airguns,my 177 pcp loves 10,34 JSBs,its doing 980fps for 22fpe,and its shooting sub inch at 50yds i shoot magpies with it out to approx 100yds,tested it on block balistic jell at 100yds blew a half inch diameter hole thro 8 inch of jell,was amazed at penertration and damage that little 177 pellet did at that distance.you will have no probs on rabbits/possums etc out considerable distance with that rifle. cheers mike
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Posted By: Myson
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2020 at 7:35am
Thanks guys!
That's interesting Mike - I had no idea the .177 could do that at 100yds! Splendid! As I now develop the SIG's ballistic chart out to 100yds, I'll check the damage my 19fpe does at 100yds too.
I've had to Loctite every bloody screw down so far! The recoil kept loosening my rings and stock screws! She's a munter!
------------- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq7jVyBfFqE" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq7jVyBfFqE Air Arms S510 US .22 Air Arms S410 .22 Weihrauch HW97KT .177 Weihrauch HW95 .177
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Posted By: shane
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2020 at 8:35pm
Just had a look on Chairgun ..out at 100yd , you looking at approx 5.4 ft.lb of energy.
I was thinking about getting one of these but ended up getting another tx200
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Posted By: Graywulf
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2020 at 3:09am
Myson wrote:
Just bought the SIG break barrel gas ram springer air rifle and have trialed different pellets.Yes! Can't believe it! Using the artillery hold and resting on sand bags, I'm getting sub-1" groups of 5 pellets at 50yds consistently.... Wow! And this is a magnum springer! I'm a happy chappie! Anyone else out there with the SIG ASP20? Are you getting similar results? Would like to hear from you.... |
Yeh, getting that 'artillery hold' right is the thing. I'm still in the throws of really learning that. I haven't put 500 through my rifle yet. These 'magnum' rifles are certainly a huge 'step up' from the old springers of a few yrs ago. I've shot my first couple of 'Vermin' with it, (mines a .25) and the hit is quite incredible.
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Posted By: Myson
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2020 at 7:33am
Thanks Shane & Graywulf.
Interesting! We'll see what 5.4fpe does out there!
What rifle is your .25, Graywulf? An ASP20 too?
------------- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq7jVyBfFqE" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq7jVyBfFqE Air Arms S510 US .22 Air Arms S410 .22 Weihrauch HW97KT .177 Weihrauch HW95 .177
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Posted By: dvlnme
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2020 at 8:29am
allways interesting what guns can do at long distances,destroyed few chronoes doing long distance chrono testing with firearms over the years,dosnt matter how well you think you have protected a chrono if its hit with a 308 ha ha. cheers mike
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Posted By: J-S
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2020 at 3:13pm
Myson wrote:
Thanks Shane & Graywulf.
Interesting! We'll see what 5.4fpe does out there!
What rifle is your .25, Graywulf? An ASP20 too?
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Technically 5fpe should humanely take bunnies, and birds if hit in the right spot.
HAve wanted to try the ASP20 for a while, glad to hear its working out.
------------- https://www.instagram.com/js_airguns/" rel="nofollow - J S Airguns Air Arms TX200('s) Theoben Sirocco HW77 FWB 300s Webley Patriot One or two others...
Current projects: Too many..
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Posted By: dvlnme
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2020 at 7:58am
the often qouted rule of thumb in UK for their 12fpe rifles min of 6fpe on target for rabbits etc,but what they dont qoute is that at 6fpe pellet placement is critical,there is no room for error in pellet placement at 6fpe,otherwise you leaving a wounded animal to die a painful death if not found and dispatched,of course they neglete to tell anyone that side of things,for that reason i dont use 12fpe airguns for small game hunting,tho fine for pests like rats and birds etc at reasonable distances,we are not restricted to using 12fpe hunting airguns here and there plenty of other choices available here better suited for small game hunting than 12fpe rifles,you got to respect those UK small game hunters on utube hunting with 12fpe 177 rifles tho,as they are very good at it and must put lot of time learning those shooting skills eh!! cheers mike
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Posted By: Graywulf
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 10:17pm
Hi Myson, not been on here a few days. My rifles a Hatsan 125 'vortex' .25 quoted as about 29fpe with a 26gr slug. I've done a bunny and rat, and yup it does the job
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Posted By: dvlnme
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 6:31am
many firearms uses just get how effective an accurate airgun can be,i was the same til bout 16/17 years ago when got back into airguns after never using one for over 40 years these days i rarely use a rimfire for small game hunting and havnt really missed the firearms i find i can do pretty much every thing i used to do with a 22rimfire just as effectivly with the airguns i have,i can allso safely use the airguns where i would never consider using any firearm purely on safety reasons,the end result of that has been its opened up a lot more hunting areas for me that had allways been closed or off limits if using firearms,i dropped a large male fox with a 22 cal springer doing bout 16fpe at muzzle with 16 gr pellets at close to 30 yds with one shot to the head,just dropped on spot and never evan twitched on my cousins farm in aussie few years back and have shot several more since with same rifle over the years,have shot several medium sized goats with one head shoot using my 35fpe bsa pcp rifle around here over the years using 21.14 gr pellets,so dont believe airguns are not effective with well placed pellet eh!! cheers mike
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Posted By: mercs
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2020 at 8:51pm
Bought the Sig .177 ASP20 last March. I found it as accurate as my fixed barrels, managed to get the matching Whiskey3 ASP scope and have installed it using a SportsMatch dampa mount.
I have since purchased the .22 ASP20 and it is just as accurate, this is fitted with a Panamax 3-9x40AO as the Sig ASP scope has been discontinued.
Both have >2000 pellets and are regularly used for pest control including possum and rabbit. Happy to add photos and reviews if there is any interest.
cheers
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Posted By: Pauly5
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2020 at 9:50pm
Yea, sounds good. I'm keen to see what setups others are using.
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Posted By: Myson
Date Posted: 24 Dec 2020 at 4:54pm
Thanks Mercs.
Good to hear others are finding the SIG so accurate and grunty too!
If only the trigger were smoother - it's very OK but once you've experienced the HW97 trigger, nothing seems to match it!
I'm about to setup my ballistics chart from 10yds - 100yds this holiday (with zero at 50yds) at x16 magnification.... can't wait!
Have a super Christmas y'all!!!
------------- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq7jVyBfFqE" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq7jVyBfFqE Air Arms S510 US .22 Air Arms S410 .22 Weihrauch HW97KT .177 Weihrauch HW95 .177
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Posted By: mercs
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2021 at 8:29pm
How did you get on with your ballistics setup. My .177 ASP20 appears to have a very flat trajectory out at 40 yards only requiring 1/2 mil-dot of holdover. The Whisky3 scope eventually failed so has been swapped out for a Stealth 4-12x40 which is working well but lacks the adjustable objective so I am having to adapt. Stealth optic has 10 year warranty and at $200 I will give them a chance.
Sig Air | ASP20 .177 | Pellet Brand | H& N | Pellet type | Barracuda | Average fps | 923 | Grains | 10.64 | Grammes | 0.69 | foot pounds | 20.13 | Joules | 27.3 |
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Posted By: Pauly5
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2021 at 8:53pm
Yea. 177 @ that power is a laser beam.
My .22, 18 grn @ 908 fps has a hold under of approx 25 mm at 25m, for a zero at 50m, so pretty flat and good for bunnies.
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Posted By: dvlnme
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2021 at 8:25am
hello stranger,havnt seen you around for while mate,you right bout hi vel 177 with right pellet being a laser the old lonestar set up with 10.34 barracdas at 980fps shoots so flat it a laser for sure,it will reach out on calm day out to 100yds and has taken quite few maggies out to 100 now most being around 80 but thats long way for a little 177 for sure. cheers mike
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Posted By: dvlnme
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2021 at 8:28am
mercs,you n i should catch up i like just out midhurst on NP side. cheers mike
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Posted By: Pauly5
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2021 at 8:31am
G day Mike, yea i'm still here, plugging away. I was thinking about you and the BSA you have when this came up.
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Posted By: non
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2021 at 7:22pm
are these to part with friend? new here, trying to find a decent priced plinker for pests that wont cripple the wallet
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Posted By: J-S
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2021 at 8:38pm
non wrote:
are these to part with friend?
new here, trying to find a decent priced plinker for pests that wont cripple the wallet |
Dont want to divert from the topic too much, but what sort of price are you looking at? There may be someone with something for sale. The Sig in question is around $900-1100 mark new.
You can always add a post in the Wanted to Buy section.
I have always found the Cometa fenix and fusion a great value rifle - nice build, accurate, good adjustable trigger, and not too bad price. You can occasionally find one second hand on trademe.
Also a good option is to give Ron a call at Youngs Airguns. Hes a good honest, no nonsense guy with a wealth of knowledge. He will give some good advise and options of rifles to suit your needs - not simply the most expensive rifle or the one with most margin for him like other chain stores.
------------- https://www.instagram.com/js_airguns/" rel="nofollow - J S Airguns Air Arms TX200('s) Theoben Sirocco HW77 FWB 300s Webley Patriot One or two others...
Current projects: Too many..
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