seriously injured,this on top of the current court case with some total phuckwit having shot n killed his

 baby with a very illegal sawn off shotgun that apparently didnt work.

 Strangly enuf all the guns involved were obtained illegally,niether had a licence,but truth is thats 

 actually illrelevent,what is rellivent is these two brainless phuckwits not only apparently very easily 

 obtained their guns illegally without a licence,the facts seem to be there are a lot guns floating 

 around out there left behind after licence changes over the years and when owners give up licences,

 The real facts are that nz police dont follow up after law changes or licence not renewed to see if any

 guns once legally owned  but no longer legally owned have been disposed of legally and properly.

 There are of course some gun thefts but theft is minor compared to the what will be the huge number

 of guns that fell through the system due to police not following up when licences are given up and law

 changes.

 Yet strange as it may seem our police are blaming everyone else,rather than looking at their own lack 

 of following their own proper proceedure,nz police like many police departments seem believe that

 more n tougher gun laws will solve a problem thats largly of their own making.

 Nz police recently went to gov with new set gun laws n got told it largly wasnt going to happen by the 

 gov,so be prepared for lot media crap by police for tougher gun laws coz its coming.

 Tougher gun laws have never stopped crime,just we all know our tough drug laws work so well eh!!!!

 So tougher gun laws going to work just as well the drug laws work eh!!NOT a bloody chance,simply 

 because only the law abiding obey any laws in first instance a fact that seems to ellude police n govs

 all round the world an allways has.

 My point is that like most people i have no issue with sensible laws that actually work if they make

 our country safer for all including our hard working cops,but unfortunatly sense dosnt seem to be on 

 table when it comes to some our police n pollys in wellington these days it all comes down to

 politics and appearing to the public that both parties are doing their bit to keep us all safle from idiots

 n crims eh!!Crushing boy racers cars is a good recent example,made collins look good on tv,but did 

 nothing else of any value eh!!

 Any way had my blow out for all the good its guna do.

 Cheers Mike

 police managment with an anti gun agenda whos aim is to remove all guns from public hands so only

 police have guns,proberly never guna happen,but that dosnt stop em trying every chance they get.

 They been using the media thru tv shoes like police 10/7 to push their antigun bs for years,have now

 successfully convinced most dairy owners etc that soft airguns are dangerous,n evan convinced 

 themselves their bs is true,hence part the reason for import bans on realistic looking toy guns n certain 

 oc2/pcp airguns.

 Its actually harder today to get an import lic for a pcp airgun than an msa,simply because a policeman 

 was killed with a pcp fx air rifle,dispite the fact he was only police officer ever killed with an airgun,the 

 rest of course being killed with knives n firearms,many officers i have come accross in recent years

 actually really believe dispite facts being otherwise that airguns are more dangerous thn firearms due

 to believing the departments own propaganda program,and make no mistake it is a deliberate program

 The police in my area have been trying to bully everyone to give up the serial nos,calibers n make of all

 their guns when doing the security checks for licences etc knowing full well its not a legal requirment.

 But insisting to the unwary its a legal requirment the dirty buggers.

 Been all over tv n talk back radio today bout how our gun laws arent working etc,total bs of course but

 its exactly wot some in police want eh!!

 Guns be interesting times ahead next few years as nz police continue to push for tougher gun laws

 dispite this will have no effect on the illegal gun supply simply due to idiots n crims not obeying the

 laws as they are will not be any more inclined to obey any new laws either,a very simple truth nz 

 police seem to not being able understand or if do understand choose to ignore to push their own 

 agenda,which is to eventually remove as many guns from public hands as possible,while the illegal

 guns will majically disappear allso,wen truth is exact opposite eh!!

 Cheers Mike