Laminated blank or plywood
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Topic: Laminated blank or plywood
Posted By: Pauly5
Subject: Laminated blank or plywood
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2017 at 2:49pm
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Any tips on where I could get some good plywood for making a rifle stock? |
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Posted By: pete
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2017 at 7:24pm
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boat builder.... marine ply has no gaps or knot holes in the verner's.. .. ------------- career Infinity .22 PCP Crosman optimus 1.77 Hatsan Mod 75 .22 Swiss Arms brake barrel pistol 1.77 Crosman 1322. |
Posted By: Pauly5
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2017 at 4:15am
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Good thinking. That's what I'm after, Thanks. ------------- |
Posted By: Novagun
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2017 at 9:54pm
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Be careful what you buy. Some plywood that is marketed as marine ply is just rubbish. Very soft core veneers and very thin face veneers. If you want good stuff you have to pay for it and plenty. I don't think there is anyone in Wellington that stocks good stuff. They will have to get if from Auckland and then you pay freight. Fijian Kauri ply is not too bad but fairly plain. |
Posted By: Pauly5
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2017 at 10:37pm
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I actually thought about you nova. Of course I don't need a lot and was going to try a couple of the boat builders listed in Wellington for possible off cuts. I know it's pricey, but easier to work with and lighter than solid timber. Unless there's someone local that likes to work on boats whose garage I can raid??? ------------- |
Posted By: Pauly5
Date Posted: 13 May 2017 at 10:23am
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Found some in Wellington at a timber specialist on Thornton Quay Nova. $165 a sheet for 18 mm 2.4 x 1.2. Quite pricey. I would need three layers glued together to get the right thickness, so I will definitely get three maybe four blanks. Might be able to sell a couple if anyone is game to make a Stock? I have looked into getting a 36mm spade router bit for inletting the HW97 action, and there's a 35mm which could work. It will be better than multiple passess with a small bit. Anyway, this might turn onto a build if I can keep the motivation up. ------------- |
Posted By: Flub
Date Posted: 16 May 2017 at 11:22pm
| I'd buy a blank from you. |
Posted By: Pauly5
Date Posted: 16 May 2017 at 11:28pm
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Where abouts are you flub? ------------- |
Posted By: J-S
Date Posted: 25 May 2017 at 12:22pm
Hey Pauly, I was looking around myself.. Most mentions i see from the UK custom guys are Finnish laminates. So I found these guys: https://www.lamnia.com/en/sc/178/hunting-and-shooting/laminated-blanks Ready to go and made for the job... Not to mention pretty colours. Pricey, yes, but I imagine the finish would be nice and if you are doing the work yourself, it would end up not too bad.... |
Pauly5 wrote:Posted By: Pauly5
Date Posted: 25 May 2017 at 12:24pm
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Will have a look. Ta ------------- |
Posted By: J-S
Date Posted: 25 May 2017 at 12:42pm
plenty of images on their facebook pages too for shape inspiration. |
Posted By: Pauly5
Date Posted: 25 May 2017 at 6:51pm
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They look good. Is that price in nzd? Not cheap, but yeah not too bad if you embark on a project. ------------- |
Posted By: Flub
Date Posted: 25 May 2017 at 8:48pm
Sorry, only just seen this. I'm in Otorohanga but I travel all over the country for work and as I'm the boss I set my own agenda 
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Posted By: Flub
Date Posted: 25 May 2017 at 9:10pm
| My wife just said "we buy marine ply in work". She works for a company that makes kitchen benchtops. Her boss is also into guns so he'll know if what they use is suitable. I'll ask and also get a price. |
Posted By: Pauly5
Date Posted: 25 May 2017 at 9:25pm
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That's exciting. I managed to score a small piece, enough for one stock from an engineer that repairs boats the other day. So i'm working on an outline/template. ------------- |
Posted By: J-S
Date Posted: 26 May 2017 at 9:36am
Yeah it looks to be in NZD with free shipping. Not cheap at all, but there look to be some familiar colours in there, so wouldnt be surprised if they are used by some of the big names - AA, HW etc But marine ply will probably get an excellent result so do post some pics of the progress.  |
Posted By: Pauly5
Date Posted: 26 May 2017 at 9:44am
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I do like those Air arms stocks. Check out laminated stock in the technical section. Me and another guy made some stocks a while ago. ------------- |
Posted By: Pauly5
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2017 at 11:04pm
Well someone gave me a piece of marine ply, just enough for one blank, so I started on a new stock for my 97. Suitably inspired by a build forwarded onto me by JS, I am taking a more calculated approach to this one. This stock will be more of a target style for FT, but I am looking forward to getting creative and making a mess.  Laminating and roughing out the design.  Outline for inletting drawn onto the stock. I have it clamped and ready to router it out. ------------- |
Posted By: Pauly5
Date Posted: 12 Jun 2017 at 9:55pm
Made a start on the in-letting tonight. Cable tied the vacuum to the router and it works quite well. ------------- |
Posted By: nunga
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2017 at 10:46am
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was just about to ask what the cable ties were for :) ------------- 2nd place HP springer - WFTF World Championships 2014 |
Posted By: Pauly5
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2017 at 12:28pm
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She's a high tech operation for sure. ------------- |
Posted By: Novagun
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2017 at 9:47pm
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Pauly5. I had a look at corebox bits to do the inletting of the stock. Biggest I could find was 12.5 mms. I suppose you could get one made but costly. 36 mms is a big bit and would have to be 1/2 inch shank. And need a grunty router and take. a few cuts. I have used ordinary high carbon steel spade bits and cut the spur off leaving just a rounded peg to act as a guide in a sawcut to the right depth and ground the bit round. It works but the shank is only 6mm so you get a bit of chatter and the finish needs sanding. Gentle light cuts because you don't want to bend the shank at 1000s rpm. I was not really very happy doing it. Gloves goggles face mask. Safer with a proper 1/2 inch shank bit.
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Posted By: Pauly5
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2017 at 11:51pm
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Yes I remember you telling me that once, but I'm not as brave as you. There is a 35mm core box bit available with 1/2 in shank, and Ryobi have a router that will handle it. The last stock I did I ended up bedding the action, which worked well I thought. This also eliminated the need to get the inlet perfect. I nearly went out and spent the money on impulse, but have decided to just tread carefully, do multiple runs and bed the action. ------------- |
Posted By: dvlnme
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2017 at 9:15am
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Been thinking bout this one for while,made lot stocks over the years,some using laminated walnut and other woods etc,allso made couple using ply,most proper laminated blanks ore made in thin layers the opposite way to ply,you can get same effect by stacking ply n gluing,get same effect as proper laminated stock blanks,looks nicer than ply,but bit mor trouble to make up blank,tho i think end result worth it Cheers Mike
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