Weihrauch HW97
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Topic: Weihrauch HW97
Posted By: Ashman
Subject: Weihrauch HW97
Date Posted: 19 May 2026 at 11:12am
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I now know why there's folks that rave about these. Kruzaroad fitted a TBT tuning kit to the one I bought off him and that thing is a laser. Shot some groups at 20m last night to continue the learning stage with this rifle and the last 2 groups were 3.6 and 3.7mm CTC one holers. The Hatsan I had, the two Gamo's I've got, neither of them, in my hands, at least, were or are capable of that and they're not bad rifles, just never, ever, that good. Anyone got an HW95 with a synthetic stock they'd part with?
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Posted By: KiwiTR6
Date Posted: 19 May 2026 at 11:27am
 Someone once told me "the best you've ever tried is the best you'll ever know" That's why some of us bemoan the fact that the big dealers push newbies into air rifles that don't perform very well with the promise that they're something they’re not. I'm sure that's why we lose a lot of those people from long term participation in the wonderful world of airgun ownership.
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Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 19 May 2026 at 2:47pm
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Not a stock weihrauch. Has spring kit for a reason and trigger was pulled apart and polished. Has had seals replaced in less than year. Breach seal just fell out and wouldn't grip again. So you can add another 300± bucks by time got spring kit and seals on top of price to get it running like that. Thats around $1500 without scope it cost me for gun. Oh and for that price the bluing also started to wear out on cocking lever within a couple of months. Yep they shoot good. But its put me off them. More hype around them than deserve I think. A newbie would have had to spend more sending it away to get stuff done. Thats the truth of that gun.  Oh and original spring broke into 3 pieces |
Posted By: Pauly5
Date Posted: 20 May 2026 at 8:49am
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My first good quality airgun was a HW97k in .177, and I had a second one in .22 later. I had also worked on a newer model too. My first one was nothing but lovely engineering, faultless. The one in .22 was second hand, but newish and it shot well, but benefited from a strip, clean of factory grease and relubed. I later sold it as I just didn't use it. At one stage there were roumors of parts being made offshore, but I don't know if that's true. So it feels like of late some QC may have dropped, but the bones of an HW97 are still what are required for a good gun. For me, it's a must to at least take apart your gun so you know what is happening inside. There are usually factory edges that need smoothing and proper distribution of lube. I have a synthetic HW97 stock i'm willing to part with. pm me if interested. |
Posted By: Myson
Date Posted: 20 May 2026 at 9:13am
Interesting conversation!  As many of you know, I consider the HW97KT the best springer on Planet Earth!!! Closely followed by the HW95! Both of mine have never been tuned, touched or fiddled with (because I'm a useless engineer)! They are factory babes, well loved, worn in and wonderful. On still days I knock golf balls off tees at 70yds - shot after shot after shot - with both rifles. Yes, they Twang, recoil, groan and grunt (because they've never been tuned) but so what? They shoot better than rim-fires, splatter blowflies at 80yds, are cheap to run and provide hours and hours of precision shooting fun! Wouldn't have any other gun!  ------------- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq7jVyBfFqE" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq7jVyBfFqE Air Arms S510 US .22 Air Arms S410 .22 Weihrauch HW97KT .177 Weihrauch HW95 .177 |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 20 May 2026 at 10:13am
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Twanging is a no no for me. Don't like it hunting. The spring set up in the hw97 is just metal on metal in the piston. No slip washer, don't think it even had a bottom guide from memory ( but double check that) just spring in metal. There gamos that come with bottom guides and slip washer! Yet they seem to cop untold flack for build quality. Id definitely go diana and also tx200 and sig asp20 before weihrauch all guns ive owned and put above wiehrach hw for factory build quality and just as accurate. ( The diana may actually be lesser on accuracy for targets but is so close its fine for me hunting, don't forget its a break barrel) Both the tx and sig didn't go because of how they shot or mechanical issues, one went on wieght and i couldn't handel such a nice stock being damaged as i pushed through growth. The other because it was .177 and i personally don't like it as hunting cal. That is a personal preference and says nothing about the .177 as an effective cal. My hw97 was an awsome shooter but needed work to get it that way. Manufacturing issues to deal with. How bad it is it when there's a blob of grease just sitting in trigger unit doing nothing and crystalised white gunk on sears from factory. Once it was done superb rifle. None of the other 3 rifles i have mentioned needed work done to them. None have had seals fall out, springs break,bluing wear off like the hw did. I could by a bare gamo (no scope or mag) for around 800 bucks and have 700 bucks to improve it before i reached the cost of the hw after spring kit (wouldn't go back to stock spring set up) and seals imported. There's to much hype around wiehrach in my view. I don't regret selling mine and are pleased that ashman got the end resaults which is an awsome gun. But it didn't come like that. Issues needed to be sorted. You never pulled it apart to grease your gun Myson? Or just never worked on it? |
Posted By: Ashman
Date Posted: 23 May 2026 at 9:59pm
| Pauly, The stock on mine is synthetic thumbhole. What stock shape is your synthetic one? |
Posted By: Ashman
Date Posted: 23 May 2026 at 10:07pm
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kruzaroad wrote:Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 23 May 2026 at 10:23pm
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Shooter is big part of those groups. Power is another. Target shooters drop power. The hw doesn't have kick of a magnium and has wieght to help with recoil. Gamo has light body and powerful spring. What model was it? If they have put washers behind the the gas ram pull them out. Will drop power but help control piston impact. Why i ground the spring cup and guide down on hatsan pistol. Take some pressure off spring. Though that front guide is more of a hammer than guide. |
Posted By: Pauly5
Date Posted: 24 May 2026 at 1:06am
| it's a thumbhole also. |