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Topic: Hi

Posted By: Ticks
Subject: Hi
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2025 at 6:11pm

Hi from the deep south

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Posted By: administrator
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2025 at 6:53pm

Hi deep south this is the north speaking

Posted By: Ticks
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2025 at 6:55pm

I can't really get further south without a boat lol

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Posted By: Pauly5
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2025 at 8:54pm

Welcome, I'm from the middle.

Posted By: jwabfrog
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2025 at 9:36am

What are you shooting in the deep south ticks? Too cold for possums? Another Northerner here

Posted By: Ticks
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2025 at 12:44pm

30 minutes from Invercargill going west na heaps of possum down here and the are really fluffy in winter making it easy to get plenty of furr I actually shot 3 in my backyard with my old crossman mag extra only 10 mtrs away it did kill them with a head shot but I didn't really like that gun at all so I got rid of it my vaporizer seems a lot more powerful than the mag extra and is far more accurate even after only 50 odd rounds the mag extra took 500 rounds before getting anywhere near accurate

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Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2025 at 12:54pm

Tend to be darker down south which gets a better price too. Further north you go the lighter and less dense the fur.
Think it was around 95 bucks for machine plucked and 90 bucks for hand plucked per kg end of year before last

Posted By: Ticks
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2025 at 12:58pm

Hand plucked down here was close to 140 a kg a couple of years ago but I was using a.223 back then I had to head shot with that if I wanted to pluck them because a body shot made too much mess of the fur 😂

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Posted By: Ticks
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2025 at 1:01pm

Unfortunately when I left my ex I had to hand in my firearms license because she told the cops she was scared of me although there was absolutely no basis to warrant her saying that she did it just to hurt me she even kept my pig dog saying that it was hers I couldn't do a thing at all the cops take the female side straight away in those types of things

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Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2025 at 1:13pm

They use any excuse to take a fal.
Those fur were prices up north so im not suprised you were getting more down there.
The difference in colour and fur quality is pretty significant

Posted By: Ticks
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2025 at 2:06pm

The quality of the fur down here is pretty good alright you can see why they use it for stuff it's so bloody soft and not itchy like wool I can't believe that it's not more widely used and harvested I mean the are nothing but a pest and no use for anything else I got in the crap years ago in Aussie I was on holiday and saw one on the bird feeder so I grabbed it by the tail and put it down I didn't know that they are protected over there 😂 and yeah I had my fal for 22 years I had never been in trouble for anything at all with the cops I had really good solid reference from a few people but I didn't have a chance and I actually have to say that if some of the springer on the market now do the fps that they say it's more fps than a low velocity.22 and more fps than an average pcp yet you have to have a fal for them to and let face it guns don't kill people any more than a spoon make you fat it is the person who is holding it that is the problem and tbh the only people who don't have a gun without a license is the honest people it's like a lock on a door that won't stop a crim it will only stop the honest people

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Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2025 at 2:29pm

Get over the high fps.
High fps is going to give you more recoil and be harder to keep gun accurate. ( Look up springer recoil theres a lot happening before that pellet leaves the barrel and if you've been shooting powder burners your probly underestimating how much it affects it. It will seem like nothing compared to a lr but it really does affect it. Kills non airgun scopes too)
Theres also the transonic flight that affects flight as they near the 950 fps to over a 1000fps.
Heres the figures i got a couple of weeks back from chrono and chair gun.
I use 5fpe at target for my standard for a kill shot on hare and 6fpe for possum at target .
Thats my own personal guide lines that im comfortable with .

                        Muzzle 90y
18.13gr    636fps    16.2fpe    8.95
16gr       659fps     15.5fpe   3.70
14.66gr   705fps     16.2 fpe   5.31
Muzzle and 90yards keep centering so first is muzzle fpe and second with no fpe is 90 yards

Posted By: Ticks
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2025 at 2:57pm

Cheers I have been learning about the recoil and stuff that a Springer does compared to powder and how to hold a Springer compared to powder it's a little hard to break the habit of holding it tight like a powder I'm not concerned about the fps really I was just trying to use it as a comparison I'm a bearing engineer so also well aware of the affect of the approaching the sound barrier and it's affects on a projectile bit like a "dome" shaped front is more stable in the air as a pose to a pointed tip bit like the mass of the projectile being more important for a kill than the fps I would have gone with a.17 if I was really wanting fps but even though they are higher than a .22 having less mass makes them less affective than a .22 but I do appreciate you giving me advice I work on the theory that if I don't know what someone else does know I will listen and learn rather than forming my own opinion on what I think I know my 7mm was a bit more accurate with a slower projectile then the faster ammo I am am surprised tho at just how different springers behave then powder it's just a practice thing I guess bit like anything in life the more information you know and the more practice you do makes you better and it's the smaller details that you pay attention to that makes the most difference

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Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2025 at 3:51pm

If your not aware of this guy check him out.
https://m.youtube.com/@AirArmsHuntingSA
He has really good info on a lot of air gun subjects.
Youll have to search through the site as theres a lot of the usual look at me shoot videos but has some fantastic ballistic and pellet flight videos, scope etc.
Teds holdover is another good site that has gems of info.

Posted By: Pauly5
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2025 at 4:29pm

Bearing engineer. What does that involve?

Posted By: Ticks
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2025 at 5:50pm

I can spec and fit bearings check tolerances which goes down into microns to insure the load is correct also design and spec power transmission drives motors gearboxes and couplings work out drive belt loads to get the right power rated belts and pullies work out greasing requirements and quiet a bit of other stuff that is a quick basic run down and when I am not doing that stuff I do a sales rep role I've also done my first year of a civil engineering degree basically work with numbers and do a lot of maths I find All that stuff interesting and am good with numbers spelling grammar and that stuff on the other hand is not my strong suit predictive text is awesome lol and when I have to do official emails and stuff I write them then a lovely office Chic I work with make them PC etc send them back to me to send lol 😂

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Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2025 at 10:03pm

Sound like the perfect person to design a rotational pcp/co2 mag that locks exactly in line with the barrel, every time it turns and doesn't have play.
Or maybe a break barrel mag that works like a pcp mag and doesnt lift with barrel. Though you would probly need something like the sig asp20 locking system to stop barrel misalignments. The air gun world could use both.

Posted By: Pauly5
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2025 at 9:15pm

Good skills there. As Kruz said, I am sure you can apply those to the airgun world.

I know I enjoy learning about engineering/metal work.

Posted By: Ticks
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2025 at 7:42am

Thanks guys I appreciate your beliefs in my capabilities but I think that you may have over estimated what I am capable of in saying that I have definitely been trying to figure out way's of doing what you are saying I don't have the actual skills required to physically do the build I could possibly do the theory but I would probably need a gun smith to do the physical work and make sure any idea that I had were actually safe to do I had thought about something like using a fixed barrel but having a slide under it that would work kinda like a bolt action you would pull it straight back to cock the spring then you could push the bolt up loading a pallet from a mag that lay horizontally what a spring in the mag and the pallet in line with the barrel one behind the other it's a little hard to explain

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Posted By: Pauly5
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2025 at 7:50am

All designs originate somewhere, and everyone thinks differently.