FX Cyclone pellet feed issue
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Topic: FX Cyclone pellet feed issue
Posted By: JasonEdward
Subject: FX Cyclone pellet feed issue
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2024 at 7:05am
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I changed from .177 JSB Exact Diablo (8.44g) to H&N Baracudas (10.65) and immediately found pellets mag or pellet seating jamming often. Mag seems to seat fine only when cocking is there the issue. Wiggling the cocking lever at the same time as the mag can fix the issue, but sometimes I need to pull mag shaft and cocking back and wiggle the mag to get it out then re-fit. This is recurring on each mag. I removed and lubed the mag O ring and mag and found zero issues with JSB, but the H&N Baras will load but with extra force required - pre-lube they did not want to load at all. I note all pellets looked and loaded fine when loaded into the mag. Has anyone else found issues with loading high quality pellets of different sizes? I presume my used Cyclone has done a bit of work given previous owners used it for culling, professionally I think...could this indicate a service and maybe replacement of some parts is over-due? |
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Posted By: nunga
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2024 at 1:21pm
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It will be the head size causing the problems. I have found with JSB they tend to set the skirt as the head size. If you measure the heads you will find they are all the same size and it is the skirt which is different. H&N the head size is the hard size. I find the H&N are way tighter in the barrel because of this. ------------- 2nd place HP springer - WFTF World Championships 2014 |
Posted By: Pauly5
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2024 at 2:18am
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When I had a Cyclone I tried H&N Baracuda and experienced exactly that. Silicon solved the issue. They were very accurate for me too. I was using the Baracuda match.
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Posted By: JasonEdward
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2024 at 5:56am
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Even more interesting. The "feel" of H&N baracuda pellets compared to JSB AFTER fresh silcon was that I can now push the pellets into the breech but with more force than required with the JSB. Which makes perfect sense given what you both tell me. But it was only a few hundred shots ago that I lightly siliconed the mags and I didn't remove the o Rings as i did this time so lube is definitely on the INSIDE of the O rings now. The pellets are Baracuda "Long Range Hunting" at 10.65g, the same weights as pellets labelled Baracuda "Hunter Exteme" in a sample pack - are these marketing names for the same pellets? What weight are your Baracuda Match Pauly - on the H&N site they are also 10.65....? In my short 18m back yard shooting the change to heavier pellets has no impact on POI but I'm sure further out things would be different... Maybe lube is the answer to all of the worlds problems????? 
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Posted By: Pauly5
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2024 at 6:12am
You might be onto something wit the lube  There are a few different Barracuda types. The ones I used were smooth domed. I do wonder if the harsher ridges on the hunter extreme make it harder too? |
Posted By: JasonEdward
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2024 at 5:05pm
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Pauly are there that many Baracuda models all of the exactly the same weight? Cheers M |
Posted By: Pauly5
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2024 at 2:20am
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The ones I can think of are Hunter, Match, green and extreme . All versions of Barracuda. Plus I think they come in different weights. 15, 18 and 21 grain.
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Posted By: RangerPete
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2024 at 6:29am
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Hi Mark, Yes H&N have a whole range of pellets under the “baracuda” name. And that’s why we try as many different makes, models, head sizes and weights of pellets as we can in a rifle, till you find the one that the rifle likes 👌🏻 ------------- Walk quietly, but carry a big stick. |
Posted By: JasonEdward
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2024 at 9:15am
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Too right Pete, But there seem to be at least 3 barracudas of exactly the same weight - I'm wondering if they are the same... |
Posted By: Pauly5
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2024 at 9:54am
| In regard to the feeding from the mags, I would imagine the hunter extreme type with harder ridges on the head could feed a bit rougher. |
Posted By: JasonEdward
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2024 at 7:57am
| By the way guys, thank you for dispelling my fears re my rifle and educating me on the finer points of pellet loading systems. Your experience and willingness to share it is invaluable - I can no longer worry about more force required to chamber some pellets but instead just reach for the lube to manage the issue... just like my last girlfriend said :-) |
Posted By: RangerPete
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2024 at 1:00pm
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No such thing as too much lube… ------------- Walk quietly, but carry a big stick. |