For the air arms fans
Printed From: Kiwi Airgunners
Category: General
Forum Name: Flub's General Discussion
Forum Description: General discussion goes in here.
URL: www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1123
Printed Date: 14 Nov 2024 at 6:08pm
Software Version: Web Wiz Forums 10.14 - http://www.webwizforums.com
Topic: For the air arms fans
Posted By: kruzaroad
Subject: For the air arms fans
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2024 at 8:47pm
| https://youtu.be/tQgA1i8elss?si=lbHNSk8ktkE2SuYx |
Replies:
Posted By: J-S
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2024 at 8:47am
|
awesome gun ------------- https://www.instagram.com/js_airguns/" rel="nofollow - J S Airguns Air Arms TX200('s) Theoben Sirocco HW77 FWB 300s Webley Patriot One or two others... Current projects: Too many.. |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2024 at 9:48am
|
That stock blows me away. I would consider something like that for hunting fantastic. The adaptablity is awesome. Only issue for me would be on a springer totally useless. If you adjust it in the field to more comfortable setting for the position you are in it would affect the vibration through the stock hence poi. As a for pcp what a boon for being able to mold the gun to yourself. I'm not sure that it's really that much differnt in the actual mechanics of the firing mech. But I guess we will see when he puts the xti mech on it at some stage. You pcp shooters are going to enjoy some great devolpments as time goes on time. Slugs, stocks, more advanced firing set ups,barrels. Great time to be a pcp shooter |
Posted By: RangerPete
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2024 at 3:12pm
|
Interesting stock. You could really make the rifle fit you like a glove. But I still have a soft spot for beautiful wooden stock. I do like the cocking lever, and the little slug for a trigger is very interesting indeed! ------------- Walk quietly, but carry a big stick. |
Posted By: Pauly5
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2024 at 7:24am
|
I find this really interesting, as I too like a nice wooden stock, but know the benefits in a gun fitting you well. Imagine putting yourself in your most comfortable shooting position where your muscles are relaxed, then making the gun fit you. Your hand, head and shoulder positions are perfect without effort. Most of the time we are having to hold our body to suit the gun. This means you can concentrate on the shot without even thinking about holding the gun. Now go get a small mortgage and buy one.
|
Posted By: J-S
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2024 at 9:37am
Id love to see one in walnut but they generally use laminate; I dont think theres been a walnut stock in that lineage: RN10/Pro target - EV2 - FTP900 - XTI50 And yes, the standard XTI in laminate would push NZ$7k, then you still have to put a scope on it! Ill put it on the "your dreaming" list ------------- https://www.instagram.com/js_airguns/" rel="nofollow - J S Airguns Air Arms TX200('s) Theoben Sirocco HW77 FWB 300s Webley Patriot One or two others... Current projects: Too many.. |
Pauly5 wrote:Posted By: Pauly5
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2024 at 10:02am
| Jack Harris had his EV2 in a custom wood stock. Not one of them highly adjustable ones, but obviously made for him. |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2024 at 10:04am
|
Holy smokes that much for a stock! That's a bit of an eye opener. I actual imagine it would be cheeper for it aluminum as the tooling machines (mother*#$":/ another rabbit just scooted past the irony) Um yeah the tooling machines are there, billet aluminum is going to be cheaper than laminating wood sections. The process will be fully automated. Seems to be a lot of beauty over practically going on here. Mostly by guys who own multiple guns. In the target shooting world that would be cutting your nose off to spite your face. I'm betting that you guys have very nice wooden stocked rifles for your viewing pleasure. As someone who has synthetic stocks for the practically of them but does really amire and love the feel of wood, I see your point but don't think it's a practical view towards this stock. But that is just my view |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2024 at 10:31am
|
I'm bit curious as to wether the butt stock pad on it is on a ball joint. I can't make it out clear enough on the video. It would seem to me that with the amount of adjustment it has that the butt pad could very well end up not square on with the shoulder. Is a independent adjustment to the angles of the butt pad something that is used in previous stock designs. Maybe you guys who more knowledgeable on these things could point me in the right direction here. I'm pretty much just a shooter and haven't really looked into stock mechanics |
Posted By: RangerPete
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2024 at 12:35pm
|
"Seems to be a lot of beauty over practically going on here" Kruza, just because its wood dosent mean its not going to fit you. A custom made, fitted to you, right down to the last details like the width of your hand across your knuckles stock, is a gorgeous thing indeed. In a grade 5 Turkish Walnut... There are few things better in this world! Besides the aesthetics and beauty of polished fine grained wood, when it comes to pure fit, there is no mass produced, aluminium, light weight, jointed, bolted together adjustable stock in the world that will even come close to a well fitted, well balanced, custom made wooden stock. And thats where the difference comes in, the mass produced ones are designed to be made cheaply, but still be adjustable to fit the masses, cheaply. A custom made stock is a one off, hand made, carved to your exact individual height, reach, hand size, head position etc. it can even be made for a specific scope on your specific rifle to set up the scope as low as possible and have the perfect cheek weld every time. And because its custom made, you pay for that. But if its a rifle or shot gun you are going to shoot a lot, its worth it. I had a stock custom made for my old work rifle, my .458Lott, by a brilliant gun smith. It took him 3 months to make the stock, and I went in for numerous fittings, but when it was finished I could shoulder that rifle with my eyes closed, as quick as I could, and every time when I opened my eyes I would be staring straight through the ghost ring and at the target, 10 out of 10 times. Crafted to be perfectly balanced, it was like an extension of my arms, it just pointed where ever I looked. And it looked beautiful too  ------------- Walk quietly, but carry a big stick. |
Posted By: J-S
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2024 at 12:40pm
$7k is for the rifle in laminate stock, the alloy would likely be the same price or perhaps slightly more. The laminate blanks are made in finland - you can buy then direct and are actually pretty good price. cost of materials is probably similar Wood stocks are likely all CNC with a little hand finishing, and the final finish usually spray lacquer. The whole XTI50 was designed for practicality; every point adjustable to tailor it to the shooter. Field target is big in UK, so the demand is there vs NZ where its a hunting background. Synthetic definitely better suited to NZ paddock and bush ------------- https://www.instagram.com/js_airguns/" rel="nofollow - J S Airguns Air Arms TX200('s) Theoben Sirocco HW77 FWB 300s Webley Patriot One or two others... Current projects: Too many.. |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2024 at 3:48pm
| That's a bit less shocking than 7000 for a stock. |