100m+ springer challange.
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Topic: 100m+ springer challange.
Posted By: kruzaroad
Subject: 100m+ springer challange.
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2024 at 2:45pm
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Inspired by Nunga's 110m shot, I'm setting up a month long challange for who can knock a can over at the furthest distance. (Nunga your old shot doesn't count unless you pop it again) I'm relying on honesty if you can only photo it. I'll put a hundy bucks worth of product up at end of month which can be from any nz shop. I'll pay for every thing on line and you can go to shop and pick it up. Nz residents only sorry. I'm not a rich person so please keep it honest. As I'm genuinely interested on how far a air rifle pellet can reach from a springer and hit a target I'm going to make it rested, which should also even it out a bit. So if your keen get shooting and post it here. Be keen on any missed shots leading up to a hit as well, just as interested in the hit ratio at distance too. |
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Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2024 at 3:09pm
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Friggin wind. It's a overcast showery day here. I've got a 15km gusty wind coming in from behind, left hand side at about 7 oclock if you have the 12 oclock facing the target. That goes for 80m approx then it changes to about 3 oclock for the last 37m when the trees end. Sux. Anyway at 117m I'm just trying to find where my point of aim is, as I've only sighted in to 80m. Of 15 shots three have hit roughly in line vertically. (I have a opened out cardboard box behind it, none have hit that) The closest shot has been the batten when I caught a wind break. The pellet in the post is at the same aim point, but the wind gusted up as I fired. That was an interesting result in itself. To the right of the post is a light graze from an early pellet which is what I used to figure out roughly how many more mildots I needed to lift. But honestly the wind is really stuffing me up. Still got a 6pack of gissy gold to shoot when wind is gone.  
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Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2024 at 3:21pm
| Oh the wind change is because the wind is forced into a differnt direction by the wool and implent shed, then down the trees, there's a container and trees the other side which is blocking the wind it ends about that big wood pile I've shown before in pics. Then it hits the cross wind. |
Posted By: nunga
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2024 at 5:05pm
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I was having the same problem with the wind at my end as well..it was a challenging day. tho i have some video footage, oh and by the way. That can i shot was a cody 8% can.. the thin cans. not the standard size beer can. On today's shoot I built a custom stand and back board to house everything. So i have successfully landed 2x shots at 100 meters today (they were bottles not cans)... and my son stepped it up a bit at the end and decided that only a hit on the bottle top counted as a knock down so i landed two of those as well. Youtube vid should be posted later tonight.
------------- 2nd place HP springer - WFTF World Championships 2014 |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2024 at 5:34pm
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Sweet so hundy to beat at moment. Bottle be as thin as a can. Neck way thinner. I'll use a 350ml v can once I get on target with the beer can. That will be about the same thickness as what you used. Think I'll skip the bottle top, don't want glass to clean up and at 117m don't think my shooting would be good enough for a neck shot at moment. With a can there is more chance of some one pushing it out further. Which is what it's all about. So 100m is the distance to top so far. As Nunga had already stated he was doing a 100m today before I came up with this and he holds a 2 place from 2014 I'm happy to take his word on it for this time. Any objections? Pics or video for everyone from now on I guess. |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2024 at 7:01pm
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From the guns I've had my money is on the asp20's. Found them a surprisingly good gun. |
Posted By: nunga
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2024 at 7:45pm
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Uploaded todays shoot. http://youtu.be/mtVl7-npmmQ" rel="nofollow - http://youtu.be/mtVl7-npmmQ ------------- 2nd place HP springer - WFTF World Championships 2014 |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2024 at 9:56pm
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That is the most dramatic filming of the death of a bottle I have ever seen!! Never would have picked that for a tx. You do the stock as well? Be keen to see a review on what you did to it internally and externally. Nice shooting by the way your a 100 bucks up for now. 👍 |
Posted By: nunga
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2024 at 10:36am
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So ive done some research and the official world record for a .177 air rifle is 150 yards (open sights). that is to hit a 6" round target. This was done with a PCP and not a springer ------------- 2nd place HP springer - WFTF World Championships 2014 |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2024 at 12:02pm
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Your kidding! I thought a pcp would go further let's see if we can beat it. Righto here's the pics. Hw97 black line. Totally stock, I haven't adjusted anything at all on it since I got it including the trigger. Pellet h&n field. Target trophy 14.66gr. Wind coming from left gental breeze. Reasonably consistent. Scope. 14x zoom set at Max elevation plus 9 mildot hold over (scope is not shimmed) Windage 2.5 mildots. Hand on bag, rear no support. Carboard for sighting about 15 shots to get happy with drop and sort windage. 5 shots at can, 2 hit batten, 2 I'm assuming went to the left as no impact marks to right. 5th shot hit. Measured against a v can 5mm approx left of a edge hit of v can. For now this the distance to beat. I'll do the v can later just to see if I can (no pun intended) but I set it at a beer can so that's the standard. What has supprised me is it blew through it. Oh the sytong distance reads 3m more than the golf range finder. (which I only found out when I couldn't get a photo through golf range finder and switched to see if could use sytong scope) I'm going with the sytong as it measures in point of a meter as well and is most likely the most accurate.  
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Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2024 at 12:14pm
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Take no notice of all the marked shots on cardboard it's a huge piece I use for ranging. The the holes marked with arrows and numbers are todays lowest is drop from crosshairs centered at my usual zero. Next ones are max elevation I got out of cranking elevation up. There's a whole heap above as I started using holdover to climb up. |
Posted By: nunga
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2024 at 12:29pm
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I also take note that you are using 14 grain pellets. must be in .22 correct? So you wouldnt mind if i crack open my .22 as well? ------------- 2nd place HP springer - WFTF World Championships 2014 |
Posted By: Billbobnz
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2024 at 12:55pm
| Righto, the Sig has to come out this weekend and maybe the 362 |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2024 at 1:19pm
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Hell yeah. That sig was sig pulled some pretty strait lines when we were on that 100m range. Handent thought of 362,that could be pretty good with the right pellet, was accurate at medium ranges. Would the co2 rifle have the distance? Seems to be preety lethal in your hands at mid ranges? |
Posted By: nunga
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2024 at 2:35pm
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CO2 only have real problems in the cold or if you let to many shots of too quickly. so it should have the balls to get there one would think?. I have to go to get my crosman .22 back off my mate that i loaned to him ages ago. He has a bunny problem on his farm, Was going to go there this afternoon. then i thought to myself...gee you idiot he has 40 acres and is 10 minutes down the dam road. "  " can you see the light-bulb above my head??....so guess what i will be doing tomorrow lol ------------- 2nd place HP springer - WFTF World Championships 2014 |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2024 at 2:44pm
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That was a lesson in humility. Filled the vcan with water, lined up first shot and the can went flying. Pretty stoked with meself packed everything away walked down to can. No hole? Dent in bottom of can but it was long and not pellet like. Had me stumped and couldn't show that as a hit. Went back set up next shot missed, 2nd shot creased the left side of can (it was empty from being on the ground) so I went down to see if it left a mark. Didn't seem too. Then I noticed the line across the top of post going to can. Turned the can around and it matched the dent. Skimmed the post top. Couldn't really call it hit.  I'm assuming the line to left is after the first shot. So went back and fired another 4 shots. 2 hit just the right on the batten. 1 you can see the other is higher. One I heard hit the tree behind so must have went left then finally  That thinner can is much harder target by far. Didn't think it would make that much differance. It certainly knocked my ego back into place. I'm sticking to beer cans you better shooters can use thin cans if you want but not nessary. |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2024 at 2:48pm
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I can Nunga. How much further out you planning on pushing the can this time? |
Posted By: nunga
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2024 at 2:54pm
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Well the world record is 150 yards or 137 meters. if the wind is good ill try 120 meters to start with and go from there and to think. i spent the last 40 minutes setting up my scaffolding to shoot above the house into the bank for extra distance lol wont need it now.  ------------- 2nd place HP springer - WFTF World Championships 2014 |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2024 at 3:06pm
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Lmao. Still looks like a fun place to go and shoot. Give you a better angle for bird shooting 😜 |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2024 at 3:24pm
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Sorry Nunga didn't see your question till rereading page. You can use what ever cal springer you like. Apart from the compition and fun aspect I'm just curious to see what can be acbieved distance wise. |
Posted By: RangerPete
Date Posted: 04 Aug 2024 at 1:04am
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I’m keen to give it a try. My biggest challenge is that the furtherest I can shoot at home, across the lounge, down the passage, out the front door, across the parking area, under the boat, to the fence, is 20yards 🤔 I also think we should standardize the can size, for example a soft drink 330ml like coke or sprite, so everyone has the same size target. ------------- Walk quietly, but carry a big stick. |
Posted By: RangerPete
Date Posted: 04 Aug 2024 at 1:10am
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I was sighting in my D54 at 30y open sights today and I was also thinking about a challenge, an open sights springer challenge…. But let’s let this one play out first 👍🏻 ------------- Walk quietly, but carry a big stick. |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 04 Aug 2024 at 6:39am
| You can count me out of open sight, unfortunately last time I used open sights it became blantly obvious my eyes arnt what they were with a choice of blurred sight or blurred target. That was a close ranges. Love to see a few of you guys compete at that. That's a skill and half distance on open sights. Love to see a pcp challange as well, scoped, no power limit that would produce some distance results and probly some pretty dam good accuracy at long ranges. |
Posted By: Pauly5
Date Posted: 04 Aug 2024 at 8:07am
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This sounds good, I will see how I go. I shot a rabbit at 138 m a couple of weeks ago. Dead calm night, one shot landed so close, but rabbit didn't know which way to go and second shot clocked it. |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 04 Aug 2024 at 10:15am
I'm about to go to can at this distance  Its another 5.5 mildots. That's off the retical so I'm using the 120m point of aim to line a spot up on tree in back ground then lift the extra 5.5mildots to that point for shot. Few more pratice shots then try can. Jump on in Pauly what's your springer you'll use? |
Posted By: Pauly5
Date Posted: 04 Aug 2024 at 10:25am
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I will use HW98 .177 It's only shooting sub 12 ft/lb so I'm going to need good conditions. I don't have any high powered springers. |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 04 Aug 2024 at 11:03am
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Changed tactkets first was to much guessing. So readjusted the zoom so the extra drop from the 120m was in the bottom of scope. First shot does it count? It skimed it. I'll try and get a clean shot but the morning still air has started to move  15 shots later haven't hit, been some close but not quite. Coffee time. |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 04 Aug 2024 at 12:23pm
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139.2m to beat. Sort out pics and blurb and put it up. |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 04 Aug 2024 at 1:06pm
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So had coffee and wind had stilled a bit. Decided after 15 missed shots I better change cardboard from huge on one side to a couple of pieces both sides so I could figure out exactly where I was going off. Turned out it was a half post and had to use 1 piece sideways ,other just put down against post. 1st shot missed everything. 2nd shot hit cardboard and that's when it happened... For the first time since we started light shone through the hole. I didn't have to walk down to check my impact. Measured the windage 1.25 mildots, applied to opposite side and can went down. Same gun and ammo. Gun fully rested on a bag. Left arm crossed under stock to right arm for rear stabalisation. Scope is just a hair under 12x zoom. Aim point bottom of the glass of retical.   Bloody stoked with gun, and me self too. |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 04 Aug 2024 at 2:33pm
Yeah 330ml sounds good. Or thinner, I have no probs with more skilled shooters making it harder for themselves. Would one of the farms you shoot on let you use a paddock? |
RangerPete wrote:Posted By: nunga
Date Posted: 04 Aug 2024 at 2:41pm
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So i went to get my .22 of my mate. checked out his paddocks and I will be setting up at 150 meters next weekend. Will take all the cameras with the range finder and do it properly. I will be sticking to .177 cal even tho i have my .25 hatsan sitting there doing nothing. as well as a few high power .22's ------------- 2nd place HP springer - WFTF World Championships 2014 |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 04 Aug 2024 at 3:07pm
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I measured up me next post it's about 10m more than that. As its gone dead still and sunny should do it now but shot enough for today. Stock go in paddock tonight so I'm out for a few days now. As any shot over a hundy meters is a great shot, I'm keen to see any can hits from a hundy meters up. The gun and pellet and muzzle volicity. I'm curious as to impact and penitration at distance. Don't not put shots up because it's not over the shot distance, any shot a hundred meters or over deserves to be to be put up. Personal bests under 100m welcome as well. |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 04 Aug 2024 at 3:47pm
| 157m will be next distance for me. |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2024 at 6:45am
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Nunga take all three cal. Your not limited to one springer. It's how far can you shoot a springer and hit the can. Personally I'd find comparison between the cal very interesting. |
Posted By: J-S
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2024 at 9:04am
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Fun!wish i had some distance to try! ive got around 20m in the yard, but i do remember going to a property and testing the legs of the FWB 300s off his deck - hanging bottle at 50yards as fun, and managed to hit a fence post at 100ish a couple of times - seemed like a long time for the pellet to hit the post! ------------- https://www.instagram.com/js_airguns/" rel="nofollow - J S Airguns Air Arms TX200('s) Theoben Sirocco HW77 FWB 300s Webley Patriot One or two others... Current projects: Too many.. |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2024 at 9:50am
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At 139m I shot, kept looking through the scope, thought nah and then the can fell. Its an insane amount of time when your shooting but in reality, not really. I would imagine though with this gun and pellet I'm getting to a distance where there is a enough time delay a hare would hear a pellet and may have time to start ducking. I'm still blown away standing at a 100m as bb shot the target how loud a pellet is cutting through the air. Being sub sonic the sound must overtake it. For all you people who don't sort pellets. Despite my fanatical pellet weighing and sorting, I'd run out of weighed pellets for the 139m shot and was using unsorted strait from the tin. |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2024 at 9:44am
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Sigh last few days still as, sunny, but bulls in paddock. Today still as, no bulls, showery sigh. Stops me using my sighting cardboard. Which is purpose of this post. That big piece of cardboard I use for ranging and is totally invaluable for getting drop and catching windage at these distances (all way beyond what I've sighted in for and shot an air rifle at before) is approx 6ft x 2m. (yeah I know it's differnt units) And is half a box, a bed head board came in. I cut it in half and have shot the first half to pieces. It maybe possible to get one from your local bed dealer if they have one out back. Honestly without it I'd probly still be plinking away at 120m. Anyway hopefully a few of you will be able to get out this weekend and put a few cans down. I'll be attempting over 150m if weather permits. Still be keen on those hundy plus can shots for impact comparison. |
Posted By: nunga
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2024 at 12:29pm
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yeah crappy here as well. last 4 days. Rain rain rain.... ------------- 2nd place HP springer - WFTF World Championships 2014 |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2024 at 12:48pm
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Mid next week should give a window. High coming in. Here's hoping it's good enough some where to get a shoot in this weekend. https://youtu.be/m0KeX5gCHDc?si=KbWlWS9mzBtOhvHk |
Posted By: nunga
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2024 at 5:56pm
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Im going to have to put off tomorrows 150 meter shoot ive got too much going on at home at the moment. Having said that there is probably a 10% chance i will get out there. ------------- 2nd place HP springer - WFTF World Championships 2014 |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2024 at 6:47pm
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That's why I gave it month. Ppl have lives. |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2024 at 10:38am
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156.9m to beat. Pics soon. |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2024 at 11:37am
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For fuk sake lost it all as loading last pic. Need a auto save function. Will rename pics so can reupload them (have no idea how to link back to them) and rewrite blurb though be much shorter and less detailed cause now I'm just pissed off. |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2024 at 11:56am
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Same shooting position as before. Windage 1.5 mildots to right of target. Scope to just a hair under 8x zoom. Aim point bottom of glass of retical.  14 ranging shots. (1 no hit at R3) The large crosses and line above are mid group marked for the drop so I could adjust zoom to right level. Indervidual shots marked. r(ranging) and 1,2 or 3 (group order) After adjusting zoom off top line. Went strait to can. 2 shots to hit can.  The pellet although it made it through can did not penitrate cardboard at back of can.  156.9m to beat and I'm still a hundy bucks up. 😁 |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2024 at 12:09pm
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Think my biggest worry now is how quick after this do I lose penitration power? I'm not finding the distance much of an issue rested, to tell the truth. However if I stop penitration or denting cans it will rule me out. See how it goes will measure out how far to gate shortly. That will be next range. Hmm gate is 160/161m. Thought it might have been more. Might see if can find about 165m,but won't be more than that, as Ive got penitration and imagine the drop is going to starting worse. Thats me for today. |
Posted By: Pauly5
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2024 at 3:29pm
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That's very good. You could try typing out your blurb in google docs, then just copy and paste into forum. That way you can type when you want, even pause and add to it later, then paste into forum when you're ready.
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Posted By: nunga
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2024 at 3:45pm
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What rifle are you using and how many feet per sec are the pellets leaving the barrel? you are using .22 right? ------------- 2nd place HP springer - WFTF World Championships 2014 |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2024 at 3:46pm
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Nah. Just select all, and copy more often. I'm pleased as it shows the gun and pellet work together. I'm stoked with the ffp scope, being able to zoom in to the bottom of the retical is awsome. Supprisingly accurate and isn't shimmed. Its exceeded maximum hunting distance before the zoom out gets to low. You had a chance to give it a shot yet pauly? |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2024 at 3:49pm
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All in the first attempt blurb page one. I am running an advantage of about a ten foot drop over the distance between me and the gate at 160m. Sorry fps wasnt there 659fps. |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2024 at 11:04pm
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Nice, that's one 110m Nunga. Picking up wind in mic. How are those 177 pellets in wind over distance. I imagine the move a bit. Whats your fps? Good to see the distance heading up. |
Posted By: nunga
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2024 at 12:02am
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The pellets move around a lot. FPS in the 177 are 860FPS.. Might switch to .22 as they are more stable and my gas rammed crosman with my piston and trigger mods is spitting out the 14gr pellets @ 760fps so i might get some good long range shots in. ------------- 2nd place HP springer - WFTF World Championships 2014 |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2024 at 6:37am
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Sounds like a goer. That extra 100 fps, over what mine has, will hopefully give the .22 that extra range to push out past what mine will do. Im hoping I can make 170m before power drops too much. Anything over that I'm going from totally stoked to over the moon. Be interesting to see how much more penitration you get, out where mine is starting lose it. |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2024 at 9:42am
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I going 165m. Have marked out to 180m but that's prob a bit dreamy. Lets see how goes. |
Posted By: Mic
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2024 at 11:08am
| Sorry for being uninformed Nunga, what is your crosman with gas ram please?---Mic |
Posted By: nunga
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2024 at 12:25pm
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Its a Crosman Crusher with a lightened piston and custom trigger ------------- 2nd place HP springer - WFTF World Championships 2014 |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2024 at 1:55pm
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165m not a go for me. I've ended up min zoom being 6x, holding above the target. Nearly 3 mildot above the bottom of retical glass. I've shot groups (for lack of a better word) nothing that would hint at consistent placement. Nothing grouping within 6inches of each other mostly around 12inch plus. Closest shot was about 3inchs high and center but that was the exception not the rule. Fully rested, no wind to very light breeze. Pellets not sorted so will sort them and may try again another day. Never found as many cardboard hits as I heard! Though most punched through some only marked cardboard and there were times I'd count the hits and couldn't find them at all. All shots marked before next group. So somewhere between last distance 157m and 165m I'm guessing the pellets start to slow enough to start misbehaving. My shooting could have been crap today but it felt good. Still bit of fun. For now I'm sitting at 156.9m and happy about getting that far.😊 Timed the pellet after I decided to stop. Gun stock on bag, hit stopwatch as pulled trigger. Stopped as soon as heard impact. Subtrack what you will for reaction time but it is still a long time in air. 14.66gr pellet 159fps 165m  Chair gun recons at target 475fps/3.5fpe approximately. |
Posted By: Mic
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2024 at 2:14pm
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cool thanks for that nunga, I have a Thrasher in .22, are you aware of mods I can do to mine?---Mic
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Posted By: nunga
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2024 at 3:31pm
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Thats pretty much the same rifle as what i have. You can do the trigger upgrade and some piston work as well ------------- 2nd place HP springer - WFTF World Championships 2014 |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2024 at 9:25am
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The new and improved 165m backdrop with extended drop points, stick with marks. Maybe with better fixed aim points maybe able to squeeze a bit more out of 97. 
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Posted By: nunga
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2024 at 10:41am
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What is that funny blue stuff in the upper right hand corner? is that blue sky i can see? Ive almost forgotten what that looks like. been non stop rain here every day since last sunday ------------- 2nd place HP springer - WFTF World Championships 2014 |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2024 at 12:13pm
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I get a heap of still days here. More than anywhere else I've emcouteredd around nz. Today is not one. Shooting at 168.9m I think it was. 10km winds gusting to 23km Ave around 14km where I shoot from. 12km to 15km past macs pretty constant then strait back to 10/12km gusting to over 20km sitting around average of 17km. Gully to left sets up slightly differnt wind angles as wind crosses it as well. Least it's all from the left this time. I've got can at bottom of that back board and are putting last mildot mark on retical about 1/3 of way up that stick. Thats brought me to right level approx but the wind is just whipping my arse for windage. Closest I've gotten is about inch above can in centre. Most now are landing around the right hight but I haven't been able to get the windage right. Coffee time getting bit frustrated. |
Posted By: RangerPete
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2024 at 12:59pm
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Long distance shooting, in even the slightest wind can be very frustrating… How much coffee have u got? 😂😂😂 All of my “long shots” in the 80’s and 90 yards that u see in my videos, I only attempt if it is verrrrryy still, usually only late at night, past 10pm. ------------- Walk quietly, but carry a big stick. |
Posted By: nunga
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2024 at 1:30pm
Whats your channel name? I will check it out ------------- 2nd place HP springer - WFTF World Championships 2014 |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2024 at 1:58pm
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Plenty of coffee. Winds up more, so canned it. I don't mind a constant wind, I can work with that. Gusty is definitely throwing me off and so is the hang time today. Still it's all info for real life pellet arc and drift. That is invaluable. |
Posted By: RangerPete
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2024 at 7:24pm
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Numga, its @PrecisionPellet on youtube. Its all just pest control, lots of rabbits getting shot. Gets quite monotonous after a while. I used to really enjoy making them, but i think i'm getting over it now  ------------- Walk quietly, but carry a big stick. |
Posted By: nunga
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2024 at 7:53pm
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Subscribed :) ------------- 2nd place HP springer - WFTF World Championships 2014 |
Posted By: RangerPete
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2024 at 9:17pm
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Thanks. ------------- Walk quietly, but carry a big stick. |
Posted By: Pauly5
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2024 at 7:36am
| And don't forget to like. |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2024 at 9:44am
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Maybe you should change it up a bit. Few gun reviews and pellet reviews directly related to hunting (you can get general everywhere on Web) drop that self aiming scope or turn off of the self aiming and do a few videos on hold over and using mildots to range (again in the field, everyone does these, but not actually in the fields hunting) if your kids just did their first hunts you could do a series of getting kids into hunting and teaching them to stalk and shoot. (keep there faces out of it, for privacy and saftey) Do a comparison of kills, with night vision with all the bells and whistles verses spotlight and scope. Do a checking organs for diseases video. Do penitration tests at the same fpe at target, to show the energy dump differance between cal at same fpe. Plenty of options if you get out into the field instead of all these controlled situations you see on Web. Do a springer vs pcp video, sound scaring critters in field video. Find some space and beat my furthest shot with a springer, video it and narrate it with tips and advice. |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2024 at 10:11am
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I've hit absolute limit for my rifle. Heres the distance. Rest to come shortly. 
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Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2024 at 11:21am
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Hw97 blackline. Stock. Scope hawk Vantage, 6 to 24 x 50 (you know I'm not actually sure) ffp Pellet h&n field target trophy 14.66gr unsorted. Gun fully rested on bag front. Fore stock arm supporting trigger arm. No wind to the slightest breeze. As good as it gets really. I walked up and was looking at the pellet above can when relised the can was seeping. Was part of a three shot group, so not sure what one hit it.   The power of the pellet's was gone this being the grouping and a couple of pellet's in cardboard.    Aim points   Couple more of can.   Thats it from me. A pellet change might make a differance to fpe at target, but the hold over on the center of the crosshairs is approx 12 to 15 foot at moment with heavier pellet, the moon. Thats the furtherest I can shoot this springer at this set up. |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2024 at 11:58am
From 80m looking to target.  From target back to shooting position, just in front of car. 
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Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2024 at 1:17pm
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That group around the can, 47cmx45cm approx. I spent a few shots over estamating the drift, and finding drop. |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2024 at 9:31am
 Heres the final pic with beer cans, gun, pellets and one of three sun screens it had for the scope over course of shooting. I'm stoked. I've shot my gun as far it will puncture a can at. I've pushed myself and the gun and pulled off what i consider a awsome shot. I'm stoked with me and my gun. I'm expecting one of you guys to beat it. You guys have more powerful guns, guns you've worked your prefrances into, a lot better shooters than me with those guns. There's still 100 bucks on it. If no one claims the hundy bucks off me, I'll flip it back into a comp more suited to more people. But frankly you all suck for not even commenting on what was a lot of effort, time and skill for me to make that shot. Lets see you do better and get that hundy. |
Posted By: RangerPete
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2024 at 12:44pm
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172m is a very impressive shot, well done Kruza. I’d have liked to see it with my own eyes. Not because i think you cheating or lying, I don’t, but simply because I’d love to see someone shooting a can at 172m with a springer 👌🏻 If I had the space I’d be participating, for sure. At the moment I’m about to remove the RRR and rezero the scope on my CFR, shooting through my house into the garden at my max, 20yards 😂 Impressive shot, well done. 👍🏻 Keen to see what the other guys are achieving distance wise. ------------- Walk quietly, but carry a big stick. |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2024 at 1:56pm
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I expected scepticism. Really have no issues with it. Personally couldn't care who believes it. I shot a can at that distance that is something I know I've done. 👍 I would have liked some one there, to call the shots. Doing a group then walking down sux. By time you walk back you're back to repositioning yourself. The amount of times I had sussed what I needed to do as I walked back and made the holdover adjustments got everything perfect, and hadn't taken the saftey catch off was infuriating. The biggest factors I have here is the still days (been dead still all day today too) dirty great backboard so I can see what's going on and the drop to target. It allowed me to keep the shooting angle less extreme from bench. As for what the others do, I'm fully expecting to be beaten. I'm not a target shooter, I'm running a nice gun and nice scope but that's it. Both stock. Fully rested. I cannot see why it shouldn't go out to 180m 190m, even 200m wouldn't surprise me. Thanks Pete. |
Posted By: Billbobnz
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2024 at 5:42pm
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Woooo hoop that's awesome. Would you hesitate to take a shot at a starling at 100 now? |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2024 at 5:49pm
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Yep. Starling at a hundred above where I put my skill level at for a clean kill in one shot. Gun is definitely capable of it. |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2024 at 10:31am
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Score. Big save furniture, let me have these (there's a lid behind it) Perfect for a long distance back drop.  Eager to get rid of it too. Less rubbish for them I suppose. |
Posted By: Pauly5
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2024 at 11:20pm
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Sheesh, great shooting. I have had no time to get to somewhere to shoot that distance during the day, but would still love to try. Don't have .22 springer, but will try with .177 if I get a chance. |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2024 at 11:57pm
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I dont see it as anything like great shooting honestly. It's basically walking pellets to the target then trying to tweek the shot. Your 138m rabbit shot is more notable, as it was done in 2 shots,without having to check where you were hitting. (mind you I suspect that was pcp with self aiming scope). I've been mucking around with ideas for one of those target hit lights, (on paper) tonight. Yet another great idea, I had no idea about till it popped up on that thread. The shot is totally redoable and I'd like to catch it on the phone, it may pick a light up at 170m+, but won't show a can that far. I ain't paying over a hundy bucks for one, when I think I've sorted a way to do it with a bit of can, some wire, hunting spotlight and battery See if I can piece it together tomorrow. Threads not going anywhere Pauly. Even after the compition ends if you shoot more put it up. Time limit is for prize, no reason to stop extending the distance when shots further are made. I'll be pretty disappointed if this the furthest shot, heap of shooters on this site are capable of more distance they get the time, space and weather. |
Posted By: RangerPete
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2024 at 9:45am
A long distance air gunners dream One mans trash is another mans treasure! ------------- Walk quietly, but carry a big stick. |
Posted By: nunga
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2024 at 10:41am
I hope you are not going to leave it leaning up against your van while testing  ------------- 2nd place HP springer - WFTF World Championships 2014 |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2024 at 12:24pm
| Way van is starting behave off and on I'd derive a certain pleasure from having it behind the backdrop, but better not. 😊 |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2024 at 12:59pm
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Here's the basics of what I'm setting up for a hit light. I'm trying to make it sensitive as possible as I'm only getting about 1.18 fpe, if the calculators are right. For the switch I'm using a cci mini mag cartridge container. Two electrical connections. One female plug for the spot light to plug into. The female plug will have a direct connection to battery and a connection to the bottom electrical connector on cci box. The top arm will connect from target plate and the electrical connection on arm and will connect to other terminal on female plug. The arm has a small amount of plastic below the connection plate to keep the connections separate untill the arm is pushed the mm or so back. The arm falls and completes the connection, spot light turns on. Stays on mind you, flashing bit past my basic set up. Still working on best way to hang target plate or make a slide for it so it can move back as a unit. Sort that later, but have couple of ideas. For now waiting for epoxy to dry on connections enough to keep working on it.      If figure I'll just mount the spot on top of the backboard with a shroud over it. See how it all works out. |
Posted By: nunga
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2024 at 1:15pm
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If it only going to setup for under 2 pfe why not use something like a plastic sheet, something the pellet wont go through. Get two sheets with tin foil on the back for your conductors with wires going to them. when the pellet hits the plastic it will push against the other sheet causing them to make the connection and that will go to your light or you could use it to power a switch which then turns the light on. ------------- 2nd place HP springer - WFTF World Championships 2014 |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2024 at 3:22pm
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Because it won't stay connected. It would be wind sensitive. Don't think tinfoil would be a good 12volt connection. I've made a tin plate put a couple of brackets for the arm. I'm just deciding if I want to put a weak spring at connection end of arm to force it down as it moves back or just put a small nut and bolt on one of the holes and let gravity do the work. Another advantage of the arm is the plate should help hold it as it trys to get back to it natural hanging point. Tin foil was one of the first things I thought of for a connection but ruled it out. 
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Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2024 at 3:30pm
| It's all number 8 wire here Nunga. It's also a one use build. I'll never be shooting this far again. Just thought I'd get it on film if can. I have no dought that ppl question the photos, even though I've tried to show it all in pics. Video be much more conclusive. ( I also like long distance shooting so is an excuse to recreate it. |
Posted By: RangerPete
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2024 at 4:37pm
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If anyone dosent believe the photos or believe that you hit a can at that distance, then that’s their problem. Anyone who regularly posts in this forum is obviously passionate about their air gunning, and in my experience people who are passionate about their interests, are usually able to do them well. I have no doubt that any of the regular contributors in this forum can shoot very well. No one on this forum stands to gain anything by lying about their accomplishments, and I don’t think anyone would. ------------- Walk quietly, but carry a big stick. |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2024 at 5:29pm
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Nah, I got a your full of sh*t look when I mentioned it to dude in one of the gun shops. Then there's those "air guns are toys" powder shooters who don't think an springer can even do 80m. Fair enough, hell the farmer here couldnt hit a hare past 80m with a 22lr, so an air rifle couldn't do it. He's changed his tune. Then again untill this I think I would have been sceptical about 172m springer shot with a stock gun. Video would just be the icing on the cake. At end of day after this I'm even more sold on air guns. |
Posted By: Pauly5
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2024 at 6:08pm
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You don't have to convince anyone here Kruz. We are all enjoying seeing the capabilities unfolding. Yea, I can't stand the ignorance of those "air guns are toys" people either. |
Posted By: nunga
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2024 at 8:01pm
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Yeah those guys are stupid ------------- 2nd place HP springer - WFTF World Championships 2014 |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2024 at 8:38pm
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Cheers. I'm having a great time tinkering around. I want to see if i can film it. At end of day its for me, but I'd like video proof. Thats if it works. |
Posted By: Pauly5
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2024 at 8:42pm
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You could film it with the sytong and it would show the range as well. Use it as a camera, stand behind your shooting position showing gun, then put sytong down on bench and whike still filming, show the range and then if you get light going, it'll show you hit the target. |
Posted By: nunga
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2024 at 9:48pm
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You can always video it on your phone. You can use my shooting channel on youtube to post it. If interested i can go over it with you. It is easier then you think ------------- 2nd place HP springer - WFTF World Championships 2014 |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2024 at 8:45am
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80km round trip to get to town for a card Pauly. If I'm in town before I get the shot I'll do that. Let me put ph near target too. You can put it on your site Nunga, I certainly won't be uploading it anywhere as general viewing. All assuming I make the shot again. But I'm pretty confident and least know where I'm aiming at to get strait on target. Still better finish light set up before anything else. |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2024 at 10:37am
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Here she is. Master piece of engineering, that will undoughtly have you machinests rolling around laughing. I can blow this and the plate will move and create the connection. It has enough weight to hold the plate in place. The wind here at moment be around 5+km. Direct into wind it trips every time. Side on it just sits in postion. I'll charge up a battery and give it the power test. But should be fine if none of the old wires are dud.   |
Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2024 at 12:38pm
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She's a goer. Thought about it and was going to get the flasher unit out of an old van here, but had to pull the instrament panel to get to it. Couldn't be bothered. Its a simple unit and pretty easy to make. You better set up ppl could make a very effient one very easy. Oh that cardboard will give four back drops. 
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Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2024 at 1:00pm
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Hmmm if this is sensitive enough I could possible extend the range. Only reason I stopped was it would t puncture a can any further away. Hmmmmmmmmmm |
Posted By: mercs
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2024 at 6:04pm
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Good stuff Kruza, I always look forward to your posts. Must be time for me to front with a Gamo.
May have found a purpose for the magnum, watch this space....  |