HI and rekindling the subject of .177 or .22 :-)

Hi, thanks for the info/advice, I'll add it to my 'what the hell do I do' file. :-)

Cheers,

Andy

Andy, I use a Hatsan .25cal for bunnies and cats now. In the past I've been a massive .177cal fan but the bigger calibers I find more accurate at further distances particularly 50-80m. Also, the .25 has alot more energy. I use a Hawke Scope on this and use the Hawke "Chair gun" app for calculating bullet place of impact which corresponds to the milford on the scope. I only use .177 for plinking now or starlings.

Hi, my names Andy, I've just joined the forum, lots of useful info I see, so I'll jump straight into the topic heading '.177 or .22' as I'm going blind watching YouTube videos about the subject :-)

I currently have a Stoeger x20 .22, bought it 2 years ago and hardly used it until quite recently, when war had to be declared on the rabbits in my section (I have a 3-acre pretty flat section near Manakau)

I stopped counting after about 2 dozen kills, and I think they're getting a bit shy ( a good thing). Mostly visitors from the neighbouring sections now I think, although a quick window-opening and on with a red lamp shows them partying at night:-)

This rekindled my interest in shooting and I decided a few weeks ago to look into possibly getting another air rifle, a quieter one (one of our dogs, the biggest one, a ridgeback/mastiff/boxer? cross freaks out when she hears the sound of the shots.) (unfortunately we have 5 rescue/cruelty case dogs, not deliberately I have to add, my wife worked for an animal rescue and we ended up over the years with the no-hopers!

I've been chasing my tail and yoyoing around the subject, and I started by bidding or an Air Chief CO2 on trade-me but wasn't successful, which was probably a good thing, as I started researching a bit more earnestly. I quickly became mesmerised by the Gamo whisper fusion the Gamo replay magnum. (I understand from observations on this forum, Gamo is a bit of a no-no) Now I can't make my mind up, .177 or.22, I like the thump of the .22 but the longer range and 'straighter shooting' of the .177 attracts me. I bagged a bunny last week @ 50 metres, but the conditions were ideal and, I'd prefer a straighter shot rather than the guesstimating over aim and under aim of the .22. I'd shot enough targets at varying distances to just about know where to aim at that range.

The going blind on YouTube bit was around using a .177 to knock off bunnies, I consider myself a reasonably good shot, the quality of the shooting with a .177 doesn't really concern me. I'm looking for accuracy and quietness (Multi-shot would be good too) in any future air rifle. I considered getting a Firearms Licence, but the cost and hoop-jumping wasn't worth it.

So, after this War & Peace intro, any advice or reassurance that an accurate reasonably powerful .177 would do the job would be greatly appreciated. And any suggestions as to reliable reasonably priced models would also be appreciated,

As I type this one of my prized possessions is counting down on trade me to help fund my new interest (so far, it looks like no one wants a Panasonic Tough book (virtually bulletproof laptop/tablet :-()

Cheers

Andy

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Andy-A Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 18 Oct 2020 Location: Manakau Status: Offline Posts: 67	Post Options Post Reply Quote Andy-A Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 Oct 2020 at 10:44pm
	too quick with my earlier reply, I have it on my computer but go cross-eyed when trying to understand it. I do use the link below to assist with some stuff :-) https://www.pyramydair.com/airgun-resources/widgets/convert.php?Units&u=14

Andy-A Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 18 Oct 2020 Location: Manakau Status: Offline Posts: 67	Post Options Post Reply Quote Andy-A Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 Oct 2020 at 10:40pm
	Hi, thanks for the info/advice, I'll add it to my 'what the hell do I do' file. :-) Cheers, Andy

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	Since I mentioned the Chair gun app, does anyone else use this tool?

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	Andy, I use a Hatsan .25cal for bunnies and cats now. In the past I've been a massive .177cal fan but the bigger calibers I find more accurate at further distances particularly 50-80m. Also, the .25 has alot more energy. I use a Hawke Scope on this and use the Hawke "Chair gun" app for calculating bullet place of impact which corresponds to the milford on the scope. I only use .177 for plinking now or starlings.

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	Andy, I will send you a PM. I reckon you can do the job with either. .22 won't be as effected by wind, but loopier trajectory. .177 more effected by wind, but flatter Trajectory. If you place either pellet in the right place, you will drop them.

Andy-A Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 18 Oct 2020 Location: Manakau Status: Offline Posts: 67	Post Options Post Reply Quote Andy-A Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 Oct 2020 at 8:55pm
	Hi, my names Andy, I've just joined the forum, lots of useful info I see, so I'll jump straight into the topic heading '.177 or .22' as I'm going blind watching YouTube videos about the subject :-) I currently have a Stoeger x20 .22, bought it 2 years ago and hardly used it until quite recently, when war had to be declared on the rabbits in my section (I have a 3-acre pretty flat section near Manakau) I stopped counting after about 2 dozen kills, and I think they're getting a bit shy ( a good thing). Mostly visitors from the neighbouring sections now I think, although a quick window-opening and on with a red lamp shows them partying at night:-) This rekindled my interest in shooting and I decided a few weeks ago to look into possibly getting another air rifle, a quieter one (one of our dogs, the biggest one, a ridgeback/mastiff/boxer? cross freaks out when she hears the sound of the shots.) (unfortunately we have 5 rescue/cruelty case dogs, not deliberately I have to add, my wife worked for an animal rescue and we ended up over the years with the no-hopers! I've been chasing my tail and yoyoing around the subject, and I started by bidding or an Air Chief CO2 on trade-me but wasn't successful, which was probably a good thing, as I started researching a bit more earnestly. I quickly became mesmerised by the Gamo whisper fusion the Gamo replay magnum. (I understand from observations on this forum, Gamo is a bit of a no-no) Now I can't make my mind up, .177 or.22, I like the thump of the .22 but the longer range and 'straighter shooting' of the .177 attracts me. I bagged a bunny last week @ 50 metres, but the conditions were ideal and, I'd prefer a straighter shot rather than the guesstimating over aim and under aim of the .22. I'd shot enough targets at varying distances to just about know where to aim at that range. The going blind on YouTube bit was around using a .177 to knock off bunnies, I consider myself a reasonably good shot, the quality of the shooting with a .177 doesn't really concern me. I'm looking for accuracy and quietness (Multi-shot would be good too) in any future air rifle. I considered getting a Firearms Licence, but the cost and hoop-jumping wasn't worth it. So, after this War & Peace intro, any advice or reassurance that an accurate reasonably powerful .177 would do the job would be greatly appreciated. And any suggestions as to reliable reasonably priced models would also be appreciated, As I type this one of my prized possessions is counting down on trade me to help fund my new interest (so far, it looks like no one wants a Panasonic Tough book (virtually bulletproof laptop/tablet :-() Cheers Andy