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Topic: My QB79 .25 Posted: 13 Apr 2013 at 6:28pm |
Cross posting from another forum, but here is my QB79 project 03/04/2013
Raizer:340354 wrote:
I brought a Mike Melick "power tuned" .22 QB79 back in August last year which I was rather excited about at the time lol
Was doing 15+fpe out of the box
Before doing to much shooting I had the barrel threaded and added a Porky style silencer
And when I was really lucky I would get groups like this
But only with JSB pellets
And most of the time they were more like this
Also had some 10m groups that were over 12" ctc at 15m with superdomes!
After working my way through multiple possible causes with advice from members of this and other forums I soon found that the stock barrel was bigger than .22 and pellets pretty much weren't engaging the rifling, the only reason I can see that the JSB's were doing ok for the most part is there very soft skirts.
The marking looks a lot deeper in the photos than in person! Also the probe/bolt seal and transfer port seal were both leaking a bit.
I decided I didn't want to spend $60+ on getting another stock barrel sent to me only to risk getting another dud so after talking to an excellent machinist on other forum we decided .25 was in this guns future! So I now have a BSA blank winging its way from John knibbs
While waiting for that to get here I've opened up the "piercing body" of my valve (badly), lined the valves port up with the hole in the tube, found a 5mm id tube to use for the transfer port and replaced much of the stock screws for strength.
Aiming for 40fpe still on co2 at this point, next step will be a 17ci hpa tank shimmed to 1100psi. |
04/04/2013
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As said, my first attempt at opening out the front of the valve didn't go too well
Jonballs is checking if he has one for me, so hopefully my 2nd attempt will go a lot smoother!
Trying to figure out how to do my transfer port and still have the valve seal to the tube |
04/04/2013
Raizer:340538 wrote:
Take 2 should look more like this
The spring is currently still held in with the factory washer, Mike Melick ground it into a triangle when he did the original tune, he also cut a seat for the spring into the valve stem
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09/04/2013
Raizer:341873 wrote:
Customs Declaration 1x rubber oring 1x grease 1x steel tube for machining
declared value: £15
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So my barrel arrived this arvo, haven't taken it out of the bag yet, but just looking through the plastic the blueing and rifling looks really nice! Kinda disappointed it doesn't have the BSA logo stamped in it haha
(the "oring" is a new breech seal for my Hatsan) |
11/04/2013
Raizer:341873 wrote:
Take 2 went a lot smoother, I had one slip with the grinder but thankfully didn't manage to destroy the piece!
Brought a longer spring for the valve too. |
11/04/2013
Raizer:341911 wrote:
I just got an update on the machine work
Here's a quick progress report for ya.. I have turned up a new .25 cal bolt probe and turned the barrels breach down to a very snug polished fit which requires a soft face hammer to send home..
This will be a far better means of attachment than the factory undersized breach floating on those 3 soft O rings and one retaining grub screw allowing it to slop all over the show with the slightest knock. The new fit is so snug that it wont in fact require any O rings to seal it. I will put it in the mill tomorrow and open up the feed tray section of the breach.
I will turn the bolt probe down a bit thinner and shape the tip of the probe to fit the rear end of a JSB King perfectly aiding bore to pellet alignment further. The Kings are a perfect candidate pellet for this project as they are light, short and tend to out shoot any other pellet in all .25 cal rifles. The challenge you now face is blasting enough CO2/air up its skirt to get them moving.. The bolt will have a tapered touch fit to a shoulder just inside the breach like a Theoben Rapid with an additional breach O ring just behind that.
I gave the bore a good scrub to rid it of the factory crud and have pushed a few pellets through the new 1/4" bore and there is plenty of bite in this bad boy.. the choke is nice and tight and the pellets exit showing good strong rifling grooves in the head and skirt.
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12/04/2013
Raizer:342140 wrote:
Latest update
[color=teal][size=10pt]Well Raizer, Your Qb79 is officially a .25cal! The barrel is fitted and I have cut the sweetest JSB chamber in it sized perfectly for the Kings. I also shaped the bolt probe tip to suit the internal skirt angle... tomorrow I will machine a groove in the bolt to add a breach O ring and a mod to the transfer port sealing surfaces to fit a decent O ring.
That will only leave the crown and 1/2x20tpi muzzle thread to complete before hopefully some testing on paper tomorrow..[/color]
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Edited by Raizer - 13 Apr 2013 at 9:58pm
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Posted: 13 Apr 2013 at 6:58pm |
It is coming on nicely :) look forward to your test results!
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Posted: 13 Apr 2013 at 9:59pm |
I'm really looking forward to them too!!
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Posted: 14 Apr 2013 at 9:09pm |
[color=teal][size=10pt]Ive cut the breach seal groove and fitted an O ring.. Ive tested it under pressure and it shows no leaks at all..
I have reassembled the rifle and put a few shots through it but it got too dark to chrony.. judging by the hole in my fence it will be quite the possum slayer now.. Will do some velocity and group tests tomorrow and get it back to you. Its just screaming out for a Hpa conversion now..
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Posted: 15 Apr 2013 at 4:41pm |
My 9 ball bolt handle rolled off his bench and the ball shattered soo...
Tacticoooool
Tested the 5 different species of .25 pellets that I had on hand this morning on paper at 30m, No prizes for guessing which ones shot the best ::)
JSB Exact Kings. 25.4gr Benjamin Premiers 27.8gr Predator Polymags 26.0gr Daystate Rangemasters 36.2gr H&N Barracudas 31.0gr
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I don't have the strings, but the JSB kings are doing about 600fps on CO2. "Its screaming out for an HPA kit now!" "You are guna love it.. the pests are not.." Also he sent me these pics :D I think my accuracy problems might be solved now :D
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Posted: 15 Apr 2013 at 5:11pm |
Beautiful is all i can say to that :)
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Posted: 18 Apr 2013 at 6:36pm |
Got it back today, chucked a full 9oz on and sighted it in.
Didn't get to shoot anywhere near as long as I wanted to, but well I'M IN LOVE!!
Super quiet, super accurate and a real punch to it!!
It almost feels strange hitting what I'm aiming at! haha
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Posted: 18 Jul 2013 at 11:13pm |
Things have progressed a little since I last posted! Ran it on CO2 for a while after getting it back, but soon got sick of paying $10-13 for 9oz of gas! Then this happened 1400psi regulated output JDS Airman HPA tank Before fitting that I bored out the gas block a bit to give more volume of regulated air, forgot to take a pic of mine but it looks like this now Just with a slightly bigger and deeper bore. Haven't Chrony'd it as yet, but is sure sounds like the pellets are hitting a LOT harder than they were on gas!
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Posted: 19 Jul 2013 at 6:28pm |
741fps / 30.98fpe
Edited by Raizer - 19 Jul 2013 at 6:29pm
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