MTC Optisan Viper 8-32x60 scope

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   the weight isnt much more than the leapers, but it is slightly heavier. As far as the brightness goes, it is only marginal, but the clarity of it and the accuracy and repeatablity in rangefinding far outweigh any negatives.Unlike the leapers which seemed a bit "muddy" in and out of focus, the optisan snaps in/out very quickly, youre either in focus , or youre not, and the margin of error is very minimal in the ranges (maybe 1/4 yard @ 50yards)
In the closer ranges (8y-27y) its good enough that i could mark 1/2 y values, ive brought in measurements like 10 1/4 yards, double checked the rangefinding to get the same reading, then measured to the target manually, and found it to be accurate. 
Definitely a step forward.
Only had one instance of lens flare, but i was facing almost directly into the sun.
What ive found helps alot is coated the inside of the sunshade with something non reflective and porous, a thin self adhesive foam (dark colour) or thin self adhesive carpet or felt ( once again in a dark colour)

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(pink)MIST Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Forum Moderator Joined: 09 Mar 2013 Location: Hamilton Status: Offline Posts: 465	Post Options Post Reply Quote (pink)MIST Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: MTC Optisan Viper 8-32x60 scope Posted: 26 May 2014 at 12:25pm
	the weight isnt much more than the leapers, but it is slightly heavier. As far as the brightness goes, it is only marginal, but the clarity of it and the accuracy and repeatablity in rangefinding far outweigh any negatives. Unlike the leapers which seemed a bit "muddy" in and out of focus, the optisan snaps in/out very quickly, youre either in focus , or youre not, and the margin of error is very minimal in the ranges (maybe 1/4 yard @ 50yards) In the closer ranges (8y-27y) its good enough that i could mark 1/2 y values, ive brought in measurements like 10 1/4 yards, double checked the rangefinding to get the same reading, then measured to the target manually, and found it to be accurate. Definitely a step forward. Only had one instance of lens flare, but i was facing almost directly into the sun. What ive found helps alot is coated the inside of the sunshade with something non reflective and porous, a thin self adhesive foam (dark colour) or thin self adhesive carpet or felt ( once again in a dark colour)
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ghce Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 24 May 2014 Location: Christchurch Status: Offline Posts: 6	Post Options Post Reply Quote ghce Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 May 2014 at 11:38am
	Very nice looking scope, how does the weight on the gun compare to the leapers? Bit of a shame about about the brightness, for those dollars you would want a nice bright scope how ever maybe this is more of a reflection on how good the Leapers are for the price. Does the Optisan flare out at high mag as I know some of the leapers can? Graeme

(pink)MIST Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Forum Moderator Joined: 09 Mar 2013 Location: Hamilton Status: Offline Posts: 465	Post Options Post Reply Quote (pink)MIST Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 Mar 2014 at 12:27am
	Update Did the ranges on the sidewheel today, every 1 yard from 10 - 25, 27,30,35,40,45,50,55 VERY REPEATABLE for range finding, not as bright in the image as mentioned earlier, but 10/10 for repeatable accurate ranging I had measured the distances out, and done all the markings, then had a workmate place different objects at marked distances unknown to me. I'd range 5 times on each, getting the same result each time, and tell him the distance. I wish it was a test, as I got them all right :) Last night I had sat down with the laptop and done the math, velocity-scope height-pellet weight- clicks After doing the distance markings, I zeroed at a predetermined 29 yards. 3 x 10 shot groups to prove to myself it was right. then changed scenery and shot close ranges 12 - 13 - 15 yards to make sure the clicks I had figured were on. 13 yards ranged and dialed in, and shot a 5 shot group into a 6.5mm ragged hole. my target was a simple horizontal and vertical line, and when i was finished the intersect of the lines was gone :) (yes I know, I shouldve been working, but the day was too close to perfect to pass up) So far (apart from the brightness issue) its proving to be a worthy purchase, I guess now I need to take it to the field and see how it likes targets...........
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(pink)MIST Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Forum Moderator Joined: 09 Mar 2013 Location: Hamilton Status: Offline Posts: 465	Post Options Post Reply Quote (pink)MIST Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 Mar 2014 at 7:47pm
	Right place right time for that one, an ex ft shooter needed to sell it to fund a rim fire project. Rrp on them is (roughly) around $900 nzd Alex @ magair is waiting to see it, and may look at the agency for them in nz Now to decide whether to sell the leapers or not, and if I do , place bets on how quickly it'll go given they're hard to come by now :)
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Coil Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 19 Aug 2013 Location: Gisborne Status: Offline Posts: 7	Post Options Post Reply Quote Coil Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 Mar 2014 at 6:58pm
	That looks nice, where did you get it from, and how much did it cost
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(pink)MIST Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Forum Moderator Joined: 09 Mar 2013 Location: Hamilton Status: Offline Posts: 465	Post Options Post Reply Quote (pink)MIST Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 Mar 2014 at 4:34pm
	That's the spirit! :)
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nunga Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Forum Moderator Joined: 08 Mar 2013 Location: Pukekohe Status: Offline Posts: 824	Post Options Post Reply Quote nunga Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 Mar 2014 at 12:18pm
	Who says you wont come 2nd anyway? :) got my gun sorted now so anything could happen :)

(pink)MIST Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Forum Moderator Joined: 09 Mar 2013 Location: Hamilton Status: Offline Posts: 465	Post Options Post Reply Quote (pink)MIST Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 Mar 2014 at 9:13am
	As long as it's sorted by then :) don't want to travel that far to come 2nd :) Can't imagine I won't have it sorted
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nunga Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Forum Moderator Joined: 08 Mar 2013 Location: Pukekohe Status: Offline Posts: 824	Post Options Post Reply Quote nunga Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 Mar 2014 at 9:04am
	Nice scope. I trust we will be seeing this in Wellington two weeks time?

(pink)MIST Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Forum Moderator Joined: 09 Mar 2013 Location: Hamilton Status: Offline Posts: 465	Post Options Post Reply Quote (pink)MIST Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 Mar 2014 at 12:33am
	Package arrived today, no points for guessing what it was, or the smile on my face. Not a hard one to mount to the TX200, as the leapers is a 30mm tube as well, and the mounts in place (accushot high mounts) had been centered already. After taking the leapers 8-32 off, I noted some of the differences, and took pics , but now here it is sitting on the TX with the 150mm sidewheel. The first thing I noticed was the length. Both have a 75mm sunshade, but the smaller 56mm objective leapers was actually 40mm longer. both came in around the same weight (850g) so the general weight and balance of the rifle shouldnt be affected setting the scope to my eye using the fast focus, was alot easier on the mtc. it seemed to be very snappy in and out of focus, easy to get in focus, and a very sharp reticle image in comparison to the leapers. Using it to rangefind was equally as snap in/out, making it feel more precise in its ability. Several ranges on the same target brought very consistent results, although the image seemed a little less bright than what the leapers gave. I'll happily settle for precise ranging ability over a brighter (marginally) image. The illuminated reticle is nice, only lighting the central reticle and not the posts, it also doesnt "flood" the image with the illumination like other scopes do. Leapers Reticle (std mil-dot) at 32x, focused on trees 40yards away. image is looking through a glass door which is covered in kids handprints (hindsight - i shouldve opened the door :) ) MTC SCB Reticle, at 32x focused on same tree 40 yards away (through the same dirty glass door :) ) illuminated lowest setting Illuminated highest setting Turrets on the MTC are larger, and use a push down lock/ pull up to click system. resetting the dial to read zero once it had been zeroed on target was dead simple with a lock ring. loosen ring and the fascia with the numbers and hash marks spins freely, allowing you to reposition it to read zero and lock it back up, and to do it using one hand . The leapers turrets are noticeably smaller, and to reposition the dial requires an allen key. The leapers however has more clicks per revolution, which on an FT course means 99% of your clicks are within the same revolution lessening the likelyhood of dialling a complete rev out by accident. +1 to the leapers scope for that. the clicks are audible on both, but the leapers are slightly louder and better defined, both you can feel, and with the larger turrets the MTC is easier to read. leapers turrets MTC turrets The MTC is supplied with internally threaded metal flip up caps, these are very thin but very strong, and are not spring loaded, able to fold back onto the scope. The leapers is a push fit plastic cap, spring loaded, but doesnt go right back onto the scope body. The spring does loose tension with use, and the cap can be blown by the wind, which has affected the light coming into the scope for me a couple times. The sidewheel on the leapers is available in 80mm or 100mm sizes as an extra ($25-$30) The MTC is shipped with a factory 150mm PA wheel as standard, an accessory you have to fit your self, but the bigger diameter gives more room for the ranging details to be put in. On the TX the leapers sidefocus would shift upon recoil, going out of focus and making it difficult to watch the shot. Im happy to say the MTC does not suffer that issue :) The MTC wheel sits in further as well, with the side illumination dial protruding, which when laying down ina case means the PA wheel and sidefocus dial arent taking the weight of the rifle or stress from any movement. Ive marked most of my ranges already, from 9 yards to 60, just to cover all possibilities and then some, over the next week ill check my range measurement against my clicks and make sure they all match up, and i'll write up how it handles going a rev over, how well it returns to zero etc
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