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   Nice groups Mercs!!! Well done!
If I can get my SIG .177 like your's at 50yds (Max spread 31.4mm) I'll be stoked! 

And the fact you used bipods on a Springer amazes me! I've always found the artillery hold (and your hand between the rifle and any rest) best - so, your use of bipods is most interesting.

Have you tried grouping without the bipods on your .177?  I'd be interested to see the comparison because your .22 groups (at 50m) without bipods is staggeringly good!

Max spread 14.4mm at 50 metres with your .22 is incredible!!!! Mega-Well done mercs!!!

I need to take lessons from you!!! 

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Myson Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 06 Mar 2016 Location: Feilding Status: Offline Posts: 182	Post Options Post Reply Quote Myson Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 Dec 2022 at 10:52am
	Nice groups Mercs!!! Well done! If I can get my SIG .177 like your's at 50yds (Max spread 31.4mm) I'll be stoked! And the fact you used bipods on a Springer amazes me! I've always found the artillery hold (and your hand between the rifle and any rest) best - so, your use of bipods is most interesting. Have you tried grouping without the bipods on your .177? I'd be interested to see the comparison because your .22 groups (at 50m) without bipods is staggeringly good! Max spread 14.4mm at 50 metres with your .22 is incredible!!!! Mega-Well done mercs!!! I need to take lessons from you!!!
	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq7jVyBfFqE Air Arms S510 US .22 Air Arms S410 .22 Weihrauch HW97KT .177 Weihrauch HW95 .177

Billbobnz Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 13 Jun 2020 Location: Ashburton Status: Offline Posts: 867	Post Options Post Reply Quote Billbobnz Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 Dec 2022 at 7:05pm
	Im not going to post a photo of my .25 hatsan groups from Tuesday....! Used to get 1 - 1.5 inch groups at 40m before the rebuild and now its doing 8" groups with a new scope!! I put a old scope on and made a little difference, so wondering if its two dead scopes...! ran out of JSB exacts for it so tested every other variety with not much better results so its left me a bit bazzeled and pissed off. will try another scope before i take the thing apart

kruzaroad Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 02 Jul 2022 Location: Hastings 4 now Status: Offline Posts: 2282	Post Options Post Reply Quote kruzaroad Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 Dec 2022 at 7:10pm
	Got open sights? Quickest way to check a scope.

Billbobnz Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 13 Jun 2020 Location: Ashburton Status: Offline Posts: 867	Post Options Post Reply Quote Billbobnz Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 Dec 2022 at 7:31pm
	nope, i ditched those and cant find them

kruzaroad Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 02 Jul 2022 Location: Hastings 4 now Status: Offline Posts: 2282	Post Options Post Reply Quote kruzaroad Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 31 Dec 2022 at 8:04am
	Hey mercs just went back to look at your volicities, you are shooting right in the transonic range with your 177. That volicity is the most unstable for pellets. Two of the pellets you mention are smack in worse zone. It could explain the wider spread for the 177.

mercs Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 24 Apr 2020 Location: Stratford Status: Offline Posts: 272	Post Options Post Reply Quote mercs Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 Jan 2023 at 3:56pm
	Wind disappeared for a few hours so back out with .177 on 50 metre range for some fun. Scope Tasco 3-9x40AO set at x9 Bench rest with rifle on bag instead of bipod. H&N pellets I note the Baracuda variation is vertical but Hunter Extreme variation was horizontal. First shots of the group are tight then deviate so most likely something I am doing. Next time out the first 2 rabbits within 50 metres are in trouble. H&N Baracuda 0.69g OD 37.3mm Well worth working with. H&N Hunter Extreme 0.62g OD 37.8mm Low penetration and or pellets fell out. Edited by mercs - 02 Jan 2023 at 4:02pm

Myson Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 06 Mar 2016 Location: Feilding Status: Offline Posts: 182	Post Options Post Reply Quote Myson Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 Jan 2023 at 7:10am
	Nice one Mercs! Those groups are superb at 50m! I'm still waiting for less wind to continue my testing but I'm hoping my groups turn out like this!
	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq7jVyBfFqE Air Arms S510 US .22 Air Arms S410 .22 Weihrauch HW97KT .177 Weihrauch HW95 .177

jwabfrog Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 12 Nov 2021 Location: Thames Status: Offline Posts: 142	Post Options Post Reply Quote jwabfrog Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 Jan 2023 at 11:10am
	Insane 50m groups, well done mercs!

kruzaroad Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 02 Jul 2022 Location: Hastings 4 now Status: Offline Posts: 2282	Post Options Post Reply Quote kruzaroad Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 Jan 2023 at 3:02pm
	So just ran sig over chrono with pellets for hunting hi 905fps lo 897fps Ave 897 fps If like to drop that around 850fps, what would be best way to do that with out increasing pellet size.

Billbobnz Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 13 Jun 2020 Location: Ashburton Status: Offline Posts: 867	Post Options Post Reply Quote Billbobnz Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 Jan 2023 at 4:33pm
	Those are great groups for 50m. Not sure on dropping the fps without using slightly heavier pellets. Others may have some ideas.