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My barrels not bent ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป๐Ÿ˜‚

So straight out the box, or Iโ€™m my case, straight over the counter, barrel uncleaned.
Breach face looks nasty, rusty, but should clean up.
Barrel is stright and bore actually dosent look bad. I wouldnt call it shiny, but not bad either. I can at least see all the lands and groves.
First time cocking was horrible, scratchy scraping noises, and a lot harder to cock than I anticipated.
The grip is horrible, the angle of your fingers is almost 45deg away from the trigger, not easy to grip the grip and get ur first index joint to the trigger at the same time ๐Ÿค” I might be trying my hand at first time stock carving ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ maybe a thumbhole with a 15โ€ LOP ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
First pull of the trigger wasโ€ฆ interesting.
A firm and constant pull felt the trigger creap back a few mm, I thought well maybe Iโ€™ve (firmly) pulled through the first stage. I relaxed my finger to try it again, but the trigger didnโ€™t move ๐Ÿ˜ณ, it just stayed right where it was!
Ok. So second pull started where the first left off. Quite heavy, but it did break cleanly.
That initial creep dissapeared and it eased up a little after the first few shots. Still what I feel is on the heavy side, but crisp and knocks the spots off my two Gamos! What a suprise.
And the smoke, looked like an old western movie ๐Ÿ˜‚

First 5 shots at 5m to make sure we are on the board, poi was just about 7mm above poa!
Those first 5 supprised me!
The next 10 shots were at 10m. All over shooting sticks.

Moving back to 10m, and in failing light, with ageing eyes (??? My +1โ€™s have just become +1.5โ€™s) I discovered the front bead and two accompanying green dots cover most of the target I was aiming at ๐Ÿ™ˆ
I will definitely have to find a scope for it (well for me actually).
So far all in all Iโ€™m impressed.
Now to give it a througha clean and then next 10 shots @10m. And maybe add a scope ๐Ÿ˜‰








Iโ€™ve also decided to change its name.
Green mambas are actually a beautiful bright green. This one is not.
Black mambas are actually a dark grey to olive grey, which this one is. Better name ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป
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I pulled mine apart to clean it and I'm rather supprised, one at the trigger direct to the pin thru the center of the piston.
Two that it's actually done to a better finish on the internals than the gamo was.
The piston body is a bit rough.
There is a couple of bits of stuff at end of cylinder, way to much oil in the cylinder.
The trigger is going to be a bit trickier to adjust as its connected strait to the piston so has no leverage flike a trigger group.
Rifling is great, strait, clean, defined. (take yours back Pauly)
Its got a locking bolt for the barrel bolt! See more expensive guns without that. The arm that pushes the piston back is the only thing that has sideways play.
Take the trigger spring out before taking tension off main spring or it goes flying.
I like it so far.

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Pretty basic.
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Righto, I have the day off tomorrow so will do some 10msh*ts again before I clean
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I'm at a bit of a loss as to why you guys want to fire it pre cleaning.
So put it back together, fired 20 shots thru it, still smoked for first few shots. Bit graunchy for first few shots but that stopped pretty quick.
Just shooting at tree 19m away from inside shed. Had 3 ricochet back into shed door (10m from tree) and they hit the door with a whack!
Loud as little gun I recon.
Sight is slightly crooked to right,but was hitting tree trunk everytime. (where I have no idea it was dark outside.)
So I'll lead it in a bit more tomorrow and try a couple of groups with the sig daggers.
Turns out one of the shops I descovered today waiting for mechanic to do his stuff, sells sig, and crossman pellets. I sujested maybe try jsb as Well. Here's hoping.
Oh the trigger, snap pull seemed to work Well, fighting against the spring to find where it released was terrible. Once I strip it to tune it I think I will go powdered graphite for the trigger sear.
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Good to see they have spring guides fitted
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Ragerpete, your breach looks very tidy compared to mine
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Needs it. That catch on piston actually feeds into the guide.
The trigger is located in that thinner bit of black plastic behind the guide, so has to pass right through it.
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Originally posted by Billbobnz Billbobnz wrote:

Righto, I have the day off tomorrow so will do some 10msh*ts again before I clean


Yeah always pays to wipe. What have you been eating to do a 10msh*t.
.surely that's a world.record

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Gee that's interesting the trigger acting straight onto the piston rod. No wonder it's heavy. I wonder of an extra sear can be fitted somehow?

Those groups of yours not too bad Pete. I tried some H&N FTT today, and they were so tight, it hurt to seat them.
At 20 m I was lucky to hit my target. 3 out of 5 hit. At 10m horrifically better though, but safe to say these pellets not good through it.

I think I will take it back Kruz.




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I was looking at the sear thinking of cutting it back so the there was less travel to disingauge.
Polish and graphite.
I think if the trigger is heavy a short sharp fingerovement is better than long fighting resistance one.
Yep Pauly you got skill and gear to alter the trigger. There's a lot of metal on the actual trigger itself, enough to reposition/add pins. Plenty of room on the plastic round thing it slips into as well
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10m open sight.
Indoors.
Sig dagger.
Center target, aim point base of red centre. Sights at some random setting.
Shocking would be an understatement.
I'll accept some blame. But not the spread going on here. see if likes a differnt pellet or try docking ring after a morning coffee I think
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Hummmโ€ฆ after seeing the sig daggers (and assuming u can shoot Kruza ๐Ÿ˜‚) and seeing Paulys H&N fttโ€™s the JSB exacts arenโ€™t looking too bad.
Before doing any more testing I need to put a scope on so I can see what Iโ€™m aiming at ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

The reason I did test groups before cleaning is so that I have a base line starting point to start from, and also because thatโ€™s how 99.5% of these little guns are going to be used, just bought and shot by kids whoโ€™s parents donโ€™t know any better, so for me itโ€™s nice to know who it performs out the box.

Looking at Kruzas pic of the โ€œexploded diagramโ€ of the internalsโ€ฆ I need to learn the names of all those different parts. Anyone care to put some labels onto the pic so I can start learning? Would be much appreciated ๐Ÿ˜ƒ
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Same target 100 rounds approx.
Gun/ aim point/ pellet same.
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LOLLOL  About as good as the last (and I mean the last!) Gamo I had...

Edited by KiwiTR6 - 26 Aug 2023 at 3:22am
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