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RangerPete
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Posted: 26 May 2023 at 3:10pm |
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Hi Paul,
Have u noticed and skirt โreformationโ with your beveled probe? Makes me wonder if it might be worth making a dedicated โpellet skirt reformer pressโ?!?! Something like a small press that holds the damaged pellet by the waist, and a beveled rod is carefully pressed into the skirt to re form it back to round. ๐ค |
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Posted: 16 May 2023 at 8:45am |
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Looking like a good project! 4 pumps for 9fpe is nice power!
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Posted: 16 May 2023 at 3:26am |
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That's interesting I got 652fps average over 10shots which is 15fpe
with hades 15.89gr out of box when first got 362.@8 pumps. Page 14 of you got to be out there to see,has all 10 chrono numbers. |
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Posted: 16 May 2023 at 3:06am |
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I did try 15.89 grn pellets too, but the heavier pellets seem to hit a sweeter spot.
15.89 grn 12 pumps = 18.10 / 716 8 Pumps = 14.86 / 649 4 pumps = 9.46 / 516 What I really like is that this is a really good plinker too. A couple of pumps will give you enough power for quiet plinking.
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Posted: 16 May 2023 at 2:44am |
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Seriously impressive results, well done
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Posted: 16 May 2023 at 2:02am |
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Paul - you're an engineering genius!!!
I wish I had your skills!
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Posted: 16 May 2023 at 1:46am |
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Quick update.
12 pumps = 19.16 fpe / 690 fps Bent pellet skirt testing to come.
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Posted: 14 May 2023 at 4:26pm |
I will have a go at that next. I know the probe seats the pellet well as there are clear rifling marks on the skirt after pushing the bolt home. ![]() |
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Posted: 14 May 2023 at 4:02pm |
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That... Is awesome. Fantastic results.
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Posted: 14 May 2023 at 3:48pm |
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Very interesting thread.
And you are lucky to have the machinery, and the knowledge, to be able to tinker and create ๐ Have you tried a few damaged skirts on that beveled probe yet? Iโll bet it works a treat! ๐ |
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Posted: 14 May 2023 at 3:24pm |
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Glad you like it, It's been really enjoyable doing it.
I've been making drawings with measurements so I can make more bits later without having to take it apart and measure things again. It also helps me figure out the order of operations.
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Posted: 14 May 2023 at 3:01pm |
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Dude that's a nice jump up in fpe.
You must happy with the alterations. Great review throughly enjoying it Awsome detail photos. |
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Posted: 14 May 2023 at 2:51pm |
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It's been a good day in the workshop. Today I took the 362 apart to work on the valve area,
Drilled out TP in the barrel to 4 mm drilled out TP to 4 mm shaped the outlet valve in the valve body I started to slim the valve stem and broke it, so I ended up making a new one. I didn't thin out this stem, but round off the edges of the valve stem body for better flow around it, but only minimal difference. I also made a delrin spring seat which would increase the hammer spring tension. This sits inside the hammer. Photos to follow, and chrony results you will want to see at the end. ![]() ![]() Spring ends on the hammer spring are horrific, so they got smoothed off. ![]() New valve stem next to the broken factory one. Now I know I can successfully make them I might try slimming out the stem for better flow. ![]() Delrin seat for hammer tension increase. ![]() A couple of angles of the valve body. Trying to show the smoothed out angle for better air flow. ![]() ![]() So what were the results? Prior to this work I had already fitted a hollow probe: Using 18 grn JSB 8 pumps I was getting 13.80 fpe. 12 pumps 16.11 fpe After the above works using 18 grn JSB 8 pumps - 15.71 fpe - 624 fps 10 pumps - 17.61 fpe - 661 fps I'm pretty impressed with that. I packed it in for the night, but will see if all the air has been dumped and will try 12 pumps tomorrow. Then accuracy needs to be tested. ![]() ![]() |
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Posted: 14 May 2023 at 8:27am |
๐๐ป๐๐ป๐๐ป would be interesting to do some simple tests and see if it works, once you have a working prototype ๐๐ป |
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Posted: 12 May 2023 at 4:44pm |
That is exciting.
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