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Preset your shooting spots around the barn and get cover in place way before you start shooting. Let them get use to it.
I shot way more starlings here than I ever got on the farm, simply because on the farm I just started shooting in plan sight. They picked up pretty quick what a gun was. Here it's taken them a while mostly because I've always shot from the bathroom.(I have both windows covered off and a drop sheet down one side of window because they set sentries on a tree that could look in from above on that side which I had to stick me head out the window to see. When nesting season comes if you lay off them let them nest and lay, you'll get better results as they have to come back to chick's.
On farm I started in nesting season by fluke, as soon as nesting season was over they split to other trees on the farm. Set up a couple of hides or cover on the opposite side of where your shooting for later on when they get onto you. They will get smart and start coming in from behind cover thats blocking your view. They can get into and out of thier crevice nest at a surprising rate. Way faster than you could aim and shoot.
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Here Elliott, have a look at this site.
https://youtube.com/@nzenthusiast3589

He's a 2250 shooter. Some of his set ups might be of interest to you. The way he has mounted a couple of the larger CO2 cylinders above stock I like.
None of his videos are any younger than 5 years but he's into 2250
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Thanks Kruz and I agree with the sentiment. There's not a heap of active members on here but I really like the communtiy spirit. 

FPM, appreciate the recommendation but I am in the process of buying a break barrel from Paul, just waiting on the mail order form to be processed now.  That's half the problem, if I had that in my hands I'd be spending more time out shooting that and less time thinking about other guns I'd like to buy.  What appeals to me about the CO2 and pump guns is that they should shoot a bit more like a pcp and I would think be quieter than most springers, once surpressed. I don't need a lot of power for starlings around the barn so CO2 shouldn't be an issue. I'll have the break barrel for extra power when I need it.
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My two cents would be a BSA Comet Evo in 177. I have one of these in 22 and its a great rifle. You said you want co2 but they just don't have the same performance as a break barrel.


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I'm an airgun shooter. Not a sales person. I had mercs offer the same with a steel breach when I got the 362. I really appreciated that.
Should be a community of shooters on here. I'm happy to help where I can.
Won't kill me Im not getting to far with my big Feb plans anyway. Bloody rain.
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I will certainly ask him if he has those in stock and the cost.  As you can probably tell, I've yet to make up my mind what I intend to get but I appreciate the offer of selling me those parts, for the cost of replacement plus shipping, that's very fair of you!
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Ask him about a longer barrel breach too. If you go for a steel breach from him make sure you get an end cap and bolt. Or see if Pauly has time to make em. I've got all three if you need em, and will charge you the replacement cost of breech and to get new bolt and end cap made from above person if he has the time. Also the postage.
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Originally posted by kruzaroad kruzaroad wrote:

If that 250b has been sitting for a couple of years, I'd be asking about the seals. Also haven't heard very good things about the barrel scope mounts.
Steel breech replacent seems to be the most recommended way of getting a scope on.


Yes, I did have an old Sheridan 2040 in .20, it was my dads pistol when he was a pest control officer. It never got much use and by the time I decided to put it to use I think the seals were shot.

I'd definitely get a steel breech, I am quite skeptical about the barrel mounted scopes.  It is a shame the 2250XL isn't availabke over here, with steel breech and longer barrel as standard.  I wonder if Youngs Airgun Centre would look into importing them? I'm sure they would be popular here.

EDIT: didn't think the original message was posted as I had an error message for spamming come up, apparently I had posted too many times in quick succession...

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Originally posted by kruzaroad kruzaroad wrote:

If that 250b has been sitting for a couple of years, I'd be asking about the seals. Also haven't heard very good things about the barrel scope mounts.
Steel breech replacent seems to be the most recommended way of getting a scope on.

I'm sceptical about that way of mounting the scope so would get a steel breech. It is a shame the 2250XL isn't available here with the steel breech and longer barrel as standard.  When I give Youngs a call, I'll ask him if the XL version is something he could look into importing, I'm sure it would be popular.
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If that 250b has been sitting for a couple of years, I'd be asking about the seals. Also haven't heard very good things about the barrel scope mounts.
Steel breech replacent seems to be the most recommended way of getting a scope on.
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A 2250B has just been listed on trademe, pick up is in Auckland though so no good to me.

Also, anyone looking at the Crosman 2260 rifles on trademe?  Well over my budget currently but might be of interest to someone on here.


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Originally posted by J-S J-S wrote:

Co2 is great for small pests as you can suppress it easily. The Air Chief rapid repeater is good value as it comes with metal breech ready for optics, suppressor, multishot mag and longer barrels.
All that can be done to the 2250, but would cost more for the same spec.

There is something fun about doing it yourself and making something custom but i do know he is out of long barrels and has been for some time so who knows when they will be back.



In an ideal world I would buy a 2250XL but as they don't seem to be available over here, the rapid repeater is probably a better option, although I do really like the idea of getting a standard 2250 and customising it.  I keep reading about people polishing this and replacing that and I only half understand what they're doing, so I think its about time I learnt myself.
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Co2 is great for small pests as you can suppress it easily. The Air Chief rapid repeater is good value as it comes with metal breech ready for optics, suppressor, multishot mag and longer barrels.
All that can be done to the 2250, but would cost more for the same spec.

There is something fun about doing it yourself and making something custom but i do know he is out of long barrels and has been for some time so who knows when they will be back.


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Guncity sockburn have a Crosman 2250 for $349
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Originally posted by mercs mercs wrote:

Thanks for the link, 2250XL looks very interesting, accuracy to 35m is quite a claim.

Looks as if standard Crosman metal breech conversion at $100 and barrel may well be available from Youngs Airguns, perhaps without thread, will have to investigate further.




According to this review http://airgunshooting.co.uk/article/gun-test-crosman-2250-xl it produces 25 shots at 9fte with 14.3 grain accupells, by the 35th shot it had dropped to a respectable 7fpe.  I did read some issues with the threading for the silencer causing a loss of accuracy with a silencer fitted, presumably it was not quite straight and caused some clipping, but that was on a forum thread around 10 years ago so I would assume this with have been sorted on later batches produced.

I'd be interested to know if Youngs Airguns could get these in or source the barrels for them.  I'd be very tempted to get one.


Edited by Elliot87 - 06 Mar 2023 at 3:01pm
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