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Myson
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Joined: 07 Mar 2016 Location: Feilding Status: Offline Posts: 224 |
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Posted: 08 Jul 2024 at 1:52am |
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I completely agree with Pete.
If you have a Firearms Licence for PCP's, you can also buy and use rimfire and centrefire calibres that are much more powerful than PCP's. So... limiting PCP power is pointless! Accurate longer range air rifle shooting also requires PCP's with plenty of FPE. Limiting them would impact our sport further. As we have far too many limitations on our beloved sport already, why would you want to restrict us any further?!!! ![]() I find this suggestion ill informed and very odd! Having a Firearms Licence for PCP's is a good thing. Use a Springer if you don't like it! |
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RangerPete
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Posted: 07 Jul 2024 at 5:03pm |
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Firstly, it’s a bit odd that you are an air gun enthusiast but your first post is trying to rally support of a political nature… 🤔
Secondly, proposing a FPE limit for licence free pcp ownership is not going to ensure safe and responsible use of anything by anyone. Infact, no rule or regulation you can impose on people, or remove from any existing legislation, is going to ensure people will suddenly begin to practise the safe and responsible use of firearms. Thirdly, having done a fair amount of pest control myself using PCP’s, my opinion of the amount of FPE required to humanely kill/cull ferral cats and possums, is well above the “safe for every guy and his dog to freely own” level and should certainly come with the responsibility of a firearms licence. LESS then 12 FPE is fine for mice, rats, sparrows, pigeons, and small game up to rabbit size, but possums and cats are a lot bigger with much heavier bone structure then rabbits, and to despatch them cleanly (unless you have the muzzle close to the back of their head) either requires greater FPE or exceptional marksmanship. The crazy part is that at the moment “every guy and his dog” CAN freely own a “greater then 12FPE” air rifle, even ones with a 10 shot magazine, all you need to be is over 18, they are called springers and they can humanely dispatch possums and cats just as well as any PCP if the shooter is capable. The part of the equation that needs regulating is unfortunately the part that is very difficult to regulate, the ethics, accuracy, saftey and gun manners of the user. That’s where mentorship programs should come in. Welcome to the forum. |
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kruzaroad
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Joined: 03 Jul 2022 Location: Hastings 4 now Status: Offline Posts: 2619 |
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Posted: 07 Jul 2024 at 12:36pm |
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12fpe for pcp will probly also get a 12fpe limit on springers.
As I have no interest in pcps it would have to be worded so it dropped the pcp fpe and not affect springers. I dont want to have to fork out for a fal to own a 16fpe springer. Bit over all would support it. |
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Reissue
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Posted: 07 Jul 2024 at 6:34am |
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Hello New user sorry if this is abit much for my first post. With the upcoming review of the Arms Act by the Act Party, I believe it's an opportune time for us to come together and make our voices heard. The Goal: I propose that we, as a collective group of air rifle enthusiasts and industry professionals, submit a unified proposal to the government, advocating for changes to air rifle legislation. Specifically, I'd like to see PCP air rifles legalized for use without a Firearms License (FAL), with a potential limit on the Foot-Pound of Energy (FPE) to ensure safe and responsible use. Rationale: As many of us know, air rifles are an effective tool for pest control in rural communities, helping to manage feral cat and possum populations that threaten our native wildlife. Key Points to Consider: PCP air rifles for pest control without FAL FPE limit to ensure safe use (e.g., sufficient to humanely dispatch feral cats and possums) Environmental benefits of air rifle use in rural communities Industry and enthusiast unity in advocating for change Sorry if this has already been talking about I took a look around the forum and couldn't see anything feel free to add on to this.
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