HI and rekindling the subject of .177 or .22 :-)

Andy, I use a Hatsan .25cal for bunnies and cats now. In the past I've been a massive .177cal fan but the bigger calibers I find more accurate at further distances particularly 50-80m. Also, the .25 has alot more energy. I use a Hawke Scope on this and use the Hawke "Chair gun" app for calculating bullet place of impact which corresponds to the milford on the scope. I only use .177 for plinking now or starlings.

Hi, thanks for the info/advice, I'll add it to my 'what the hell do I do' file. :-)

I use the chairgun app. Mainly for working out clicks for target shooting.

Yes .22 better for distance. But I think we adapt to the tools we have available.

the ever lasting challenge of calibers for airgun hunting eh!!sounds to me you doing pretty damned good with the rifle and caliber you using,as for the noise factor i doubt you can do much bout that with a spring or gas ram rifle,personally would keep that rifle and buy another rifle,as for 22/25 etc a 25 will definatly hit harder than a 22,simply because the 25 cal pellets are bigger in diameter,the trade off is that 25 cal rifles generally have lower velocitys in this type of rifle which leads to more rainbow like tradjectorys in 25,so its bit of a trade off between more energy and lower velocitys between the two calibers,both are good choices but each has its place too,the other issuse being that bigger calibers at this velocty level are more susceptable to wind drift,i gave up on this type of airgun many years ago and havnt used anything but pcps for long time,just how far are you expecting your air rifles to be effective for,sounds to me you are doing pretty damned good with what you have now,as for the muzzle blast,proberly not much you do bout that with this type of air rifle,i have no issuses using any of my pcp 177/22/25 cal rifles out lot further than 60 yds,but these are significantly more powerful rifles than what you are using so well,personally i would go for the 25 cal rifle mentioned by previous posters ,these a very good rifles and pack plenty of energy,tho they wont shoot as flat the 22 you are using,its really just amatter of learning how to shoot them and get best from them,this applys to any rifle,if you have to stay with this type of airgun you choices are limited to what they are capable of effectivly doing because of the power limitations this type air gun has,as to makes of rifles,general concensusis that Gamos are over priced and not that well made compared to Hatsan rifles,so you pays your money and takes your chances with Gamos.