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   Thanks guys. Got a chance to shoot it with the sunny weather. Did 5 consecutive groups, the last is the 10 shots on the top left. The 2 shots that didn't touch the others are my fault. Got 845 to 850 fps on the chrony.

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xyon Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 21 Dec 2016 Location: Canterbury Status: Offline Posts: 135	Post Options Post Reply Quote xyon Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: fell off Posted: 19 Jul 2017 at 12:28pm
	Thanks guys. Got a chance to shoot it with the sunny weather. Did 5 consecutive groups, the last is the 10 shots on the top left. The 2 shots that didn't touch the others are my fault. Got 845 to 850 fps on the chrony.
	--- My favourites springer - Diana 52 PCP - FX Wildcat III

J-S Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 20 Oct 2014 Location: Auckland Status: Offline Posts: 484	Post Options Post Reply Quote J-S Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 Jul 2017 at 10:02am
	LOOKS GOOD!
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nunga Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Admin Joined: 09 Mar 2013 Location: Pukekohe Status: Offline Posts: 1081	Post Options Post Reply Quote nunga Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 Jul 2017 at 1:32pm
	Nice work!
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Pauly5 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Forum Moderator Joined: 11 Mar 2013 Location: Titahi Bay Status: Offline Posts: 1663	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pauly5 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 Jul 2017 at 5:30pm
	Good job. Now to enjoy shooting it.

xyon Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 21 Dec 2016 Location: Canterbury Status: Offline Posts: 135	Post Options Post Reply Quote xyon Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 Jul 2017 at 4:24pm
	All back together with the refinished stock and a new muzzle shroud, as the original was missing. I need to refinish the shroud, as it is turned plastic and I tried to sand it to smoth it, but that just made it look worse. I'm pleased with the stock which I spent some time sanding, staining and rubbing in 5 coats of linseed oil.
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xyon Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 21 Dec 2016 Location: Canterbury Status: Offline Posts: 135	Post Options Post Reply Quote xyon Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 Jul 2017 at 4:07pm
	I hadn't thought of soldering it, that probably would have been quite a good way to go. But I have already repaired it now. I went for the "forged" grub screws. And from the outside.
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dvlnme Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 31 May 2017 Location: taranaki Status: Offline Posts: 519	Post Options Post Reply Quote dvlnme Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05 Jul 2017 at 2:18am
	Because tube so thin,you can allways if rail steel soft solder it and screw to tube tube wont get hot enuff to cause any probs wen soldered and will never come off,lot older firearms had had sights etc soldered to barrels actions etc as did many older spring airguns. Personally i would sweat together with solder n screw as well be strong perminent solution Cheers Mike

nunga Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Admin Joined: 09 Mar 2013 Location: Pukekohe Status: Offline Posts: 1081	Post Options Post Reply Quote nunga Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 Jun 2017 at 11:38am
	yep countersink the head into the rail and cut down the screw to suit.
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xyon Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 21 Dec 2016 Location: Canterbury Status: Offline Posts: 135	Post Options Post Reply Quote xyon Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 Jun 2017 at 11:19am
	I'm not sure how I could use a cap screw and have it be flush with the inside of the tube, or did you mean for the head to be countersunk into the rail and have the bottom of the screw flush with the inside of the tube? Edited by xyon - 27 Jun 2017 at 11:19am
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nunga Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Admin Joined: 09 Mar 2013 Location: Pukekohe Status: Offline Posts: 1081	Post Options Post Reply Quote nunga Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 Jun 2017 at 8:31am
	you can try flat head cap screws or a button head cap screws they should do the job http://www.steelmasters.co.nz/stainless-steel-fasteners/countersunk-csk-flat-head-socket-capscrews/m6-x-10-g304-csk-socket-screw/afa.asp?idWebPage=41063&CATID=147&ID=101322&SID=932800749
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xyon Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 21 Dec 2016 Location: Canterbury Status: Offline Posts: 135	Post Options Post Reply Quote xyon Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 Jun 2017 at 3:55pm
	I've drilled out the rail and tube with a 5mm bit and tapped the rail with a 6mm thread. I'm trying to decide how to secure the bolt to the tube. The tube is 1.7mm thick. As nunga says its behind the compression area, so a super smooth finish is not required, but the back of the piston rides over this area so can't really have anything protruding. I was thinking about drilling the tube to 6mm, and turning a bolt down to have a tiny head tapering from 6.0 to 6.3mm. Maybe file the tube to have an approx matching taper. Other idea I had was more of a quick and dirty. Tap the tube too (with the rail clamped to it) Peen a grub screw to expand the end and squash the thread. Then screw in from tube side. When expanded end of screw binds on tube it should pull the rail snug and be difficult to undo, so hopefully won't come lose.
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dvlnme Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 31 May 2017 Location: taranaki Status: Offline Posts: 519	Post Options Post Reply Quote dvlnme Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 Jun 2017 at 12:36pm
	This used be real common prob with old mauser 98 rifles n others as well ,screws used sheer off if made soft steel,fact is springer airguns lot harder on mounts than any firearm, due recoil being forward, rather than reward as with firearms,and there being less depth metal to put screws into on the tube etc Fact is it can be harder to keep a scope on springer airgun than biggest magnum firearm,modern airgun rated scopes much stronger than equivelent firearms scopes,these days i only use good airgun scopes evan on my firearms,simply coz they tougher. I used to put cap screws threaded into tube,then drill two holes in mount for cap screw heads as anchors then screw mout down as normal,never had one shoot loose, Cheers Mike

nunga Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Admin Joined: 09 Mar 2013 Location: Pukekohe Status: Offline Posts: 1081	Post Options Post Reply Quote nunga Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 Jun 2017 at 4:09pm
	that rail is not mounted on the compression tube its self by the looks so it shouldnt be that hard to fix. its on the spring retaining part on the gun...the compression tube is located at the front of the rifle. you should be able to drill the holes out and tap a new thread in the part of the gun without to many problems then bolt it to the gun. just make sure the screws are not to long. it looks pretty bad to look at...but shouldnt be too hard to fix
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Pauly5 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Forum Moderator Joined: 11 Mar 2013 Location: Titahi Bay Status: Offline Posts: 1663	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pauly5 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 Jun 2017 at 3:27pm
	Interesting. What about countersinking a screw from inside and bolting down the scope trail if it clears all the internals.

xyon Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 21 Dec 2016 Location: Canterbury Status: Offline Posts: 135	Post Options Post Reply Quote xyon Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 Jun 2017 at 2:22pm
	the newer gamos have dovetails cut into the tube. But not this one. The rail has circular bumps on the bottom that are pressed down from the top. These fit into the holes in the tube. Then they must have been expanded/riveted (or possibly spot welded) from the inside, I presume using the cocking slot for access.
	--- My favourites springer - Diana 52 PCP - FX Wildcat III